Iran: We're the toughest kids on the block.

[alanm]

Iran shows off its military might

By Pam O'Toole BBC News, Tehran

Jets flew over the parade

Iran has been displaying its military power at a ceremony to mark the country's annual army day.
Speaking at the parade, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran was the most powerful nation in the world.
The country's strength was such that no major power would dare to challenge its security, he said.
Official media claimed the ceremony included the largest ever show of aerial strength, with a fly past by almost 200 aircraft.
There was also a huge military parade, with missiles displayed on trucks.
Confidence
Top officials have made much of Iran's achievements in being able to maintain and manufacture sophisticated military aircraft or other equipment despite US sanctions against it.
President Ahmadinejad expressed his confidence in the strength of the country's armed forces.
He said Iran was now so powerful that "none of the current world powers are capable of, and have the courage to, threaten the Iranian nation and its interests and security".
The president stressed that Iran's armed forces were purely defensive, but warned that they would respond strongly to any act of aggression.
The parade comes amid continuing tension between Iran and the West over Tehran's controversial nuclear programme.
It also follows a recent war of words between Iran and Israel, in which an Iranian deputy army commander said that if Israel attacked Iran, it would be eliminated from the global arena.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7352654.stm

[Bowser]

"Everyone has a plan. Right up until they get hit."

[Bowser]

Those F-4's would be pretty intimidating 35 years ago.

[BigOlChiefsfan]

If only there were F-4 parts available. Anywhere in the world.

ETA - My bad. It's their F-14's that we've pretty much grounded by embargoing repair parts.

Iran Air

[Adept Havelock]

Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan

If only there were F-4 parts available. Anywhere in the world.

ETA - My bad. It's their F-14's that we've pretty much grounded by embargoing repair parts.

Iran Air

Well, except for the ones they bought as surplus on Ebay and Craigslist.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/ar...&in_page_id=64

[ChiefaRoo]

If they really were powerful they wouldn't feel the need to talk about how strong they are in public. They'd use their power quietly like the US does.

[Logical]

Heh, I admit that they could probably stop France for a couple of days if the French decided to invade. But even our depleted forces given basing and flyover rights would destroy Iran's military in 24 hours of shock and awe. They have 200 fighters, we have 2231 F-16s that were built, somehow I think they might be able to handle Iran's AF.

[Calcountry]

Somebody should have Jimmy go talk with Akmedidajob. I am sure ole Jimmy boy has fond memories of Iran.

[Saggysack]

As far as the region goes, I would have to say Turkey has the strongest military, followed closely behind by Iran. Never underestimate your enemy. Isn't that exactly what we did with the insurgency in Iraq? How many Iranian weapons have killed US soldiers in Iraq again?

The Mig-29's and F-14's which would be the most advanced fighters they have. No they don't spend 500b a year in defense like us, so no, they won't have F22's or F/A-18's(although they do have a couple f18's) they do spend a considerable amount of their budget in missile technology. Let's not forget that the most advanced weapons will not always bring victory. Training, motivation and competent leadership will. Example: WWII, superior german ground weapons vs. inferior US. ground weapons. It's not always about the kind of weapons you have, more about the man behind the controls of them

Having said that, in a conventional ground war, they don't stand a chance against us.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Saggysack

As far as the region goes, I would have to say Turkey has the strongest military, followed closely behind by Iran. Never underestimate your enemy. Isn't that exactly what we did with the insurgency in Iraq? How many Iranian weapons have killed US soldiers in Iraq again?

The Mig-29's and F-14's which would be the most advanced fighters they have. No they don't spend 500b a year in defense like us, so no, they won't have F22's or F/A-18's(although they do have a couple f18's) they do spend a considerable amount of their budget in missile technology. Let's not forget that the most advanced weapons will not always bring victory. Training, motivation and competent leadership will. Example: WWII, superior german ground weapons vs. inferior US. ground weapons. It's not always about the kind of weapons you have, more about the man behind the controls of them

Having said that, in a conventional ground war, they don't stand a chance against us.

I for damn sure don't want to test your conventional ground war theory, but I feel relatively safe in saying they stand no chance in an aerial battle.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Saggysack

How many Iranian weapons have killed US soldiers in Iraq again?

You mean how many American weapons fired by Iraqi insurgents.

[Saggysack]

Originally Posted by Ill-Logical

I for damn sure don't want to test your conventional ground war theory, but I feel relatively safe in saying they stand no chance in an aerial battle.

Would you be surprised to learn that the most advanced weapons they have are in the air?

The bulk of their MBT's are T54/55's. The most advanced MBT they have is the T72 and old British Chieftains. We were knocking the turrets off of both of the T55's and T72's in DS1. The rounds coming from those were bouncing off the frontal armor on M1A1's. They do have about 40-50 old Cobra's, that aren't due for an upgrade for a few more years. Definately no match for our SuperCobra's or Apache's. I'll take our tactics over their old Soviet style. They don't have the number's needed to be successful with those tactics. They simply are no match for our ground tactics with Abram's, Brad's and Strikers coming at them.

I'm not counting on the F22's to be combat operational for a few more years, just because of our low # of them at this point. So they could, under conventional wisdom, knock some of our aircraft out of the sky. I not saying it would be a cakewalk either way. No combat ever is.

[vailpass]

"Speaking at the parade, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran was the most powerful nation in the world."

Bring it.

[Saggysack]

Originally Posted by Bowser

You mean how many American weapons fired by Iraqi insurgents.

You could say both. Who do you thinks makes the copper plates for the roadside bombs that have penetrated our vehicles? Iran has.

[Saggysack]

Originally Posted by vailpass

"Speaking at the parade, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran was the most powerful nation in the world."

Bring it.

Modern grandiose Arab talk. Saddam did the same thing. Not even worth paying attention to.