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Old 04-19-2008, 11:12 PM  
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WHITLOCK RETURNS! Dealing Allen may make sense for Chiefs

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Trading Jared Allen might be the smart thing to do.Once Clark Hunt decided to retain Carl Peterson, the chance for the Chiefs to retain a happy, productive Jared Allen nearly evaporated.

At least for one more year, we’re stuck with The Artist Formerly Known as King Carl, so we might as well contemplate the idea of unloading Kansas City’s best football player for draft picks and whatever else the Vikings, Buccaneers or Team X is willing to give up.

Yes, it’s sad, an unfortunate consequence of the Hunts’ loyalty to a man who clearly doesn’t have the self-confidence to know when to say when. Hmm, when your employment stretches two decades and your postseason success can be documented in full detail on a matchbook, it’s time to say “when.”

And when your continued employment interferes with the club’s ability to negotiate in good faith with an ascending superstar and lone box-office draw, ownership should step in and dethrone you.
But I swore I was going to be positive about Clark Hunt’s new leadership. He’s learning to lead, and I can’t fault him for waiting to pull the trigger on his most important decision.

Given that circumstance, given the Chiefs’ 4-12 record and given the poor prospects of dramatic improvement in 2008, dealing Jared Allen to a new general manager does make sense.
Allen justifiably wants Dwight Freeney-like money ($30 million in guarantees). Allen’s numbers stack up to Freeney’s. Allen’s importance to the Chiefs surpasses Freeney’s value to the Colts.
But there is one rock-solid reason to pass on giving Allen $30 million: the Chiefs’ 4-12 record.

When your team goes 4-12, nobody is worth $30 million. The record isn’t Allen’s fault. He performed at a 15-1 level. But ownership, for the most part, hands out gigantic signing bonuses when the stadium is filled, team merchandise is flying off the shelf and the team is consistently flirting with the Super Bowl.

The Chiefs are running season-ticket billboards in Nebraska. Interest in the club is declining. Allen is blue-chip stock. Unfortunately, this isn’t the stock market. No one is advising Clark Hunt to double his investment while the franchise is at a low point.

He bought $19 million worth of Larry Johnson in 2007 and got a $19 return. Ouch. That will make a day-trader think twice.

So why not sell Allen now, especially if some franchise is willing to give up two first-round picks? The Chiefs are attempting to rebuild. They’re considering taking quarterback Matt Ryan with the No. 5 pick. They’re considering trading down to acquire more picks.

Kansas City needs players, lots of young players. The Chiefs will be lucky to win seven games this season. Maybe, they’ll be a playoff team in 2009. Generally speaking, it takes experience to win in the playoffs. That makes 2010 a best-scenario for the Chiefs to make a Super Bowl run.

Will Jared Allen still be Kansas City’s best defensive player in 2010, will he still be dominant and healthy in his seventh NFL season?

Allen is ready to win now. He can help some team make a Super Bowl push in the next three seasons. Hey, or maybe he’s the next Michael Strahan and can put together a long run of consistent high-level play.
If you were Clark Hunt, would you bet $30 million on that?

It keeps coming back to money. As Allen shops himself around the NFL, he might learn he can’t get Dwight Freeney money. Freeney got hurt shortly after signing his big deal. The Eagles spent a lot of money on Jevon Kearse a few years ago and got nothing to show for it. And Kansas City’s 4-12 record is going to be a problem for Allen.


Allen might only command $24 million in guarantees on the open market, which is still more money than Peterson and Hunt are probably ready to spend right now. And with Allen’s baggage — the DUIs and subsequent suspension — and an arbitrator’s decision to allow Michael Vick to keep $20 million of bonuses despite a jail sentence, Allen might find non-Peterson GMs more frugal than he expects.
There’s an outside shot — way outside — that Allen could roll the dice one last time, grudgingly accept the franchise salary (around $10 million) and put together one more blockbuster season in hopes that The Artist Formerly Known as King Carl gets axed after this season or develops pride and steps down.

OK, we know it’s going to take a SWAT team and federal agents to get Peterson to abandon his Plaza compound. He won’t go quietly. The only real question is how big of a mess will he leave.

From this vantage point, trading or signing Jared Allen could be messy. I won’t scream too loudly if Clark Hunt chooses the least-expensive mess.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:34 PM   #2
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Pretty damned good article that points out how hopeless we are.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:39 PM   #3
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Does this guy just peruse through the Chiefsplanet writing things down and then regirgitates what we have all been saying and call it his own?
He's far too lazy for that.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:40 PM   #5
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My biggest objection here is that Whitlock overstates the case when saying that we'll be lucky to win 7. There's no way we sniff 7. 5-11 would max this team out, unless we hit the lotto next weekend.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:44 PM   #6
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My biggest objection here is that Whitlock overstates the case when saying that we'll be lucky to win 7. There's no way we sniff 7. 5-11 would max this team out, unless we hit the lotto next weekend.
I'm hoping we have a season that challenges what the Dolphins did last year.

Maybe that'll get the shit cleaned out at Arrowhead.

Oh, hell, who am I kidding?

We'll never be rid of Carl and his minions.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:44 PM   #7
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I am sure most of the gm's are extra cautious now about off field stuff with the precedent of Mich.V., especially with these stupid and ridiculous signing bonuses.
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Does this guy just peruse through the Chiefsplanet writing things down and then regirgitates what we have all been saying and call it his own?
In his defense... you could probably say that no matter what position he took. With the amount of shit we spew around here, we've pretty much got every possible opinion covered.
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Oh, hell, who am I kidding?

We'll never be rid of Carl and his minions.
WHITLOCK - Can Carl coach Chiefs?

WHITLOCK - Peterson's defensive plan seems sound

WHITLOCK - Carl's fourth-quarter gaffe costs Chiefs opener
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I'm hoping we have a season that challenges what the Dolphins did last year.

Maybe that'll get the shit cleaned out at Arrowhead.

Oh, hell, who am I kidding?

We'll never be rid of Carl and his minions.
We all know all about its the $$$ with the Hunts. If the fans stop showing up, then Clark will have no option but to fire Carl.

BTW, good column Whitlock. I agreed with pretty much everything.
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BTW, good column Whitlock. I agreed with pretty much everything.
Likewise.
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I'm hoping we have a season that challenges what the Dolphins did last year.

Maybe that'll get the shit cleaned out at Arrowhead.

Oh, hell, who am I kidding?

We'll never be rid of Carl and his minions.
I think you're going to be pleased then. Unless we have a freakishly unbelievable draft, I think there's almost no question we'll be one of the 5 worst teams in the league next year.

The only way I see this not being the case is if we land a defensive player or two that is freaking nails. Instant pro-bowler. Then, when we average 12.5 points per game on offense, we might still have a chance.
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I think you're going to be pleased then. Unless we have a freakishly unbelievable draft, I think there's almost no question we'll be one of the 5 worst teams in the league next year.

The only way I see this not being the case is if we land a defensive player or two that is freaking nails. Instant pro-bowler. Then, when we average 12.5 points per game on offense, we might still have a chance.
Even if we have a great draft, we will still have a bad season. Most young guys dont fully develop until about seasons 3-5.
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Even if we have a great draft, we will still have a bad season. Most young guys dont fully develop until about seasons 3-5.
I agree. That's why I'm talking lotto. Pipe-dream stuff. There have been stud rookies on the defensive side before, even pro-bowlers, and we'd need to land a couple to even think about .500, IMO, particularly if Allen is traded.
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