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Old 04-21-2008, 10:15 PM  
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Another informative update from the investigative team at the KC Star

Good people, those Star folks...

With Allen situation looming, do Chiefs go for defensive end?

For weeks, all we have heard from the draft experts is that the Chiefs will be all over quarterback Matt Ryan with their No. 5 pick.

And that still might be the case.

But the whole Jared Allen situation has some NFL mock drafts shifting gears. Pro Football Weekly, for example, has the Chiefs taking defensive end Derrick Harvey out of Florida.

“With Jared Allen on his way out and two ends (Chris Long to the Rams and Vernon Gholston to the Raiders) already off the board, adding a pass rusher becomes a priority,” Pro Football Weekly writes.

The publication’s scouting report on Harvey: “Outstanding takeoff quickness. Can run, accelerate up field and close on the quarterback. Shows good strength in his hands and out-leverages bigger blockers (see Michigan game). Good balance and coordination to fight through trash and stay on his feet.”

The negatives?

“Could do a better job of keeping his shoulders square against the run. Lacks great anchor strength and can be neutralized when he is aligned head-up. Exposes his chest and struggles some to disengage.”

Other draft projections have Gholston, from Ohio State, falling to the Chiefs. Gholston is a physical specimen with incredible athletic ability. He runs a 4.58 40-yard with a 42-inch vertical leap and can bench 455 pounds.

Charley Casserly, former general manager of Washington and the Houston Texans, agreed that the Allen situation may force Carl Peterson’s hand.

“If (the trade) happens, you’re trading away a lot of sacks,” Casserly said Monday in a NFL Network conference call. “You need help on the offensive line, but you can hopefully get that help later (in the draft).”

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Old 04-21-2008, 10:16 PM   #2
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What's wrong with Profootballweekly? They're an awesome football information source!!! Maybe you're thinking of Profootballtalk...
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:19 PM   #3
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What's wrong with Profootballweekly? They're an awesome football information source!!! Maybe you're thinking of Profootballtalk...
I did get the two confused. My bad. So maybe I overstated my point, but I'd like to think that Profootballweekly would be getting its quotes and info from the local media that covers the Chiefs up front and personal every day of the year. Maybe I'll just change my original post. Then again, hard to give too much credence to anyone claiming that the Chiefs are going to go with Derrick Harvey @ #5.

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Old 04-21-2008, 10:33 PM   #4
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:34 PM   #5
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If the Chiefs go DE in the first, if a trade happens besides Long-It would nullify the reason for trading JA mostly. IMO.
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:27 PM   #6
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This crap. And another article of rehash crap.

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Old 04-21-2008, 11:33 PM   #7
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If the Chiefs go DE in the first, if a trade happens besides Long-It would nullify the reason for trading JA mostly. IMO.
3 picks and a ton of cash saved

I don't think it would nullify it
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:39 PM   #8
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If the Chiefs go DE in the first, if a trade happens besides Long-It would nullify the reason for trading JA mostly. IMO.
Clearly, considering where we drafted Allen to begin with...
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:41 PM   #9
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Clearly, considering where we drafted Allen to begin with...

yeah we'll never find anyone outside of the 5th pick, we should trade the remainder of picks for the rights to michael vick

in a couple of years it'll pay off
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:26 AM   #10
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Derrick Harvey at #5 is way too high though. That would be terrible.

Unless they meant at the #17 position.

I'm a Gator fan, but not real big on Harvey. The rest of our line sucked last year, but he didn't set the world on fire either.
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:25 AM   #11
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Derrick Harvey at #5 is way too high though. That would be terrible.

Unless they meant at the #17 position.

I'm a Gator fan, but not real big on Harvey. The rest of our line sucked last year, but he didn't set the world on fire either.
Yeah, it didn't help Harvey that all of our DT's were hurt and we had to start a true freshman offensive lineman at DT. That being said, no way Harvey is a top-10 pick. However, I don't think he'll last to #17, either.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:16 AM   #12
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No, Flanagan sucks. He just quotes other sites and press conferences.

I don't know how that ****er has a job.

He's worthless.
He's pretty much a tenured columnist at this point. Must be nice...
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:42 AM   #13
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Surely the Chiefs wouldn't take Derrick Harvey at 5? Surely not... Right?
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:56 AM   #14
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Somebody help me with this logic. Why in the hell would you trade away Jared Allen and then make your priority a DE in the first pick??? Hell I thought the team was more entertaining losing 38 to 35, then the current condition of the team. BUILD THE ****ING O-LINE PLEASE.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:58 AM   #15
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what are they supposed to report, there hasn't been any news on the subject in a few days
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