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Old 04-30-2008, 12:24 PM  
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Was Herm Edwards a good PR choice for the Chiefs?

I know it's not easy, but set aside Herm's game day management. For a franchise that needs to rebuild & will be getting little to no media attention (people love a winner). Is Herm Edwards good for the Chiefs PR wise?

The media seems to love him.

Or is media attention over rated? Players come for the paycheck.

Let us wallow in this rebuild in solitude.

DV brought alot of attention KC's way
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:26 PM   #2
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Say what you want about Herm as a coach, but the players seem to genuinely like him. He's given us good press from the media, but I'm not really sure how important that is.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:40 PM   #3
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Say what you want about Herm as a coach, but the players seem to genuinely like him. He's given us good press from the media, but I'm not really sure how important that is.
I don't think it matters at all for the good. I remember when DV left the media was slobbering all over him and making it such a huge deal that we were losing him. But I didn't hear one of them give the facts that with all his notoriety "at the end of the day" DV didn't win a playoff game with this team.

I think it will be the same with Herm, the media falls in love with his personality and they don't put the pressure on him as if they hated him and wanted him out.

So, in the end, if the coach is a faliure I think it hurts us that being a good PR person is one of his qualities.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:42 PM   #4
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I don't remember if Gunther was the laughing stock media wide. That he was on this BB.
Marty didn't really get the playoff choker tag until his KC run was about done/or after
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:50 PM   #5
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I hope to keep Herm around for the rest of his contract. (2009 season.)

After that, if we could replace him with a coach who has the exact same mentality (stockpile picks & build through the Draft, a la the Colts) but who doesn't have his head up his ass in-game, I'd be the happiest guy in the room.

I could care less about PR wise.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:52 PM   #6
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I don't like his coaching at all. Game management skills, the way he calls a game, makes us a bad team alone.

It seems as if Clark is putting a lot of hope and faith in Herm. So, we'll see how he does with guys Im hoping will be good players.

I think he would be excellent to work in the FO though. He does have the right idea in how a championship team is built imo. And I love it how he sticks with his board and drafts based on best value, rather then reach for need.

If it were me, I'd put him in the FO with Kuharich and Farmer. And Carl well I shouldn't go there....
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:54 PM   #7
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:00 PM   #8
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I don't like his coaching at all. Game management skills, the way he calls a game, makes us a bad team alone.

It seems as if Clark is putting a lot of hope and faith in Herm. So, we'll see how he does with guys Im hoping will be good players.

I think he would be excellent to work in the FO though. He does have the right idea in how a championship team is built imo. And I love it how he sticks with his board and drafts based on best value, rather then reach for need.

If it were me, I'd put him in the FO with Kuharich and Farmer. And Carl well I shouldn't go there....
Not to be argumentative (though, I guess I am), do you think that someone else could have coached the Chiefs to a 9-7 record in 2006, given the loss of Trent Green (and no serious replacement) and Willie Roaf (with no serious replacement)?
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:12 PM   #9
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I don't like his coaching at all. Game management skills, the way he calls a game, makes us a bad team alone.

It seems as if Clark is putting a lot of hope and faith in Herm. So, we'll see how he does with guys Im hoping will be good players.

I think he would be excellent to work in the FO though. He does have the right idea in how a championship team is built imo. And I love it how he sticks with his board and drafts based on best value, rather then reach for need.

If it were me, I'd put him in the FO with Kuharich and Farmer. And Carl well I shouldn't go there....
Add to that his overall "Play not to lose" philosophy, it makes for a poor game day experience.

The media loves Herm because he's good for a quote, bound to open his mouth and say something stupid. Every time a public figure makes a stupid comment it gives the media something easy to talk about, they don't have to work as hard to fill broadcast time or column inches.

Is this good PR? The Chiefs are talked about year round locally and nationally, so I guess that is something. As a fan though, I tend to get angry every time I hear him talk (and talk and talk and talk and never shut up), so I've taken to turning the channel whenever he is on.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:20 PM   #10
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Add to that his overall "Play not to lose" philosophy, it makes for a poor game day experience.

The media loves Herm because he's good for a quote, bound to open his mouth and say something stupid. Every time a public figure makes a stupid comment it gives the media something easy to talk about, they don't have to work as hard to fill broadcast time or column inches.

Is this good PR? The Chiefs are talked about year round locally and nationally, so I guess that is something. As a fan though, I tend to get angry every time I hear him talk (and talk and talk and talk and never shut up), so I've taken to turning the channel whenever he is on.



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Old 04-30-2008, 01:21 PM   #11
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Well from a Media / NFL persective. Minor HC (draws minorities for viewing?), give NFL a point in the minor HC column, likes to talk with not much said.... so media can talk about him. Good PR? how about winning some games and completing the Chiefs turn around, then crow about accomplishments and your staff/mgmt that helped as team to get it done
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:28 PM   #12
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I know I am in the minority around here, but I like Herm as a coach. I agree with his philosophy and everything. I like tough defense and smashmouth play action type of offense. Call me old school, but I just like that type of football. I think we are assembling the type of talent needed to make that type of system work as well. Both sides of the ball. And Herm has proven he can get teams to the playoffs on a fairly regular basis and win once he is there. He has just not won the big one yet. Very much like Dungy. And I wouldn't be surprised if he wins it all just as Dungy did. Might take 3 or 4 more years, but I really believe we are on the right path this time.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:29 PM   #13
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Well from a Media / NFL persective. Minor HC (draws minorities for viewing?), give NFL a point in the minor HC column, likes to talk with not much said.... so media can talk about him. Good PR? how about winning some games and completing the Chiefs turn around, then crow about accomplishments and your staff/mgmt that helped as team to get it done

dude slow down...


we just won the draft
what more could you want?
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:29 PM   #14
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I know I am in the minority around here, but I like Herm as a coach. I agree with his philosophy and everything. I like tough defense and smashmouth play action type of offense. Call me old school, but I just like that type of football. I think we are assembling the type of talent needed to make that type of system work as well. Both sides of the ball. And Herm has proven he can get teams to the playoffs on a fairly regular basis and win once he is there. He has just not won the big one yet. Very much like Dungy. And I wouldn't be surprised if he wins it all just as Dungy did. Might take 3 or 4 more years, but I really believe we are on the right path this time.
Personally I like herm too
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:49 PM   #15
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I know I am in the minority around here, but I like Herm as a coach. I agree with his philosophy and everything. I like tough defense and smashmouth play action type of offense. Call me old school, but I just like that type of football. I think we are assembling the type of talent needed to make that type of system work as well. Both sides of the ball. And Herm has proven he can get teams to the playoffs on a fairly regular basis and win once he is there. He has just not won the big one yet. Very much like Dungy. And I wouldn't be surprised if he wins it all just as Dungy did. Might take 3 or 4 more years, but I really believe we are on the right path this time.
I'm sold on his style, if he continues to evaluate and develop talent...
Playoffs in 2 years...maybe

if he takes 3 or 4 more years. I'm all for a SB W then.
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