Flowers vs Law

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

You know, I was just thinking, Flowers is potentially a big upgrade from Ty Law.

Last year, Ty Law:

1. Got abused by running backs on the edge
2. Had to surrender enormous cushions to receivers when he was in man coverage
3. Couldn't run with anyone
4. Had great instincts, so he wasn't a total loser

This year, Flowers:

1. Abuses running backs on the edge
2. Isn't Deion Sanders, but certainly doesn't run a 4.7 40-yard dash.
3. Can run with most receivers most likely, barring the Randy Mosses of the world.
4. Comes out of college with pretty good instincts, a bonus to this other stuff.

Am I totally insane or are we going to be better off with Flowers on the edge instead of Law?

[Deberg_1990]

Can we wait till Flowers has multiple Pro-Bowls and Super Bowls like Law before we "Crown" him please??

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Can we wait till Flowers has multiple Pro-Bowls and Super Bowls like Law before we "Crown" him please??

Flowers may never be as good as Law once was, but he has the potential to be better than Law ever was as a Chief.

[Buehler445]

Depends on the pass rush.

He'll probably make some rookie mistakes, but overall, HELL YES he will be better than Law. Maybe not against Manning though. I don't know what he does against Manning, but it is brutally beautiful.

[chiefs1111]

Originally Posted by milkman

Flowers may never be as good as Law once was, but he has the potential to be better than Law ever was as a Chief.

Agreed, watching Law with the chiefs was really unbearable... I am really excited to see this guy play though

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Depends on the pass rush.

Yep. And we won't have one this year.

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

Originally Posted by chiefs1111

Agreed, watching Law with the chiefs was really unbearable... I am really excited to see this guy play though

I'm not even going to put him in the defensive highlights this year...Tuck Fy Law!

[Mecca]

Law was just an example of what happens to guys at that position when they get old....which means Surtain will probably look like that this year, I hope to god this is his last year on the team.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. And we won't have one this year.

I disagree.

Dorsey will get an interior push, which will make whoever lines up at DE more effective.

In spite of Allen's 15.5 sacks, there were huge portions of games that we never sniffed the QB.

Having that inside push will actually provide a more consistent overall rush, even if no one individual puts up big numbers.

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Law was just an example of what happens to guys at that position when they get old....which means Surtain will probably look like that this year, I hope to god this is his last year on the team.

I'm not sure he's even going to start. There's been a lot of talk of moving him to the slot, where he's still quick enough to make a difference. Lost his speed though.

Damn did we piss away a lot of money on Law and Surtain.

[Mecca]

I almost think they'd be better off just walking on Surtain at this point.....he makes alot of money to not do much...and he's old.

Either way after this season I don't wanna see Surtain, McIntosh, Harris or Edwards on this team, those guys are all older and crappy.

[Mr. Kotter]

Flowers has a shot to be very good....but you won't be able to seriously compare him to (a young) Ty Law, until he has at least a year or two under his belt. Experience and game time...will show us whether or not he possesses the instincts, nose for the ball, and tenacity that Law demonstrated....especially, early in his career.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I almost think they'd be better off just walking on Surtain at this point.....he makes alot of money to not do much...and he's old.

Either way after this season I don't wanna see Surtain, McIntosh, Harris or Edwards on this team, those guys are all older and crappy.

Agreed.

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I almost think they'd be better off just walking on Surtain at this point.....he makes alot of money to not do much...and he's old.

I think he's taking a pay cut.

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Flowers has a shot to be very good....but you won't be able to seriously compare him to (a young) Ty Law, until he has at least a year or two under his belt. Experience and game time...will show us whether or not he possesses the instincts, nose for the ball, and tenacity that Law demonstrated....especially, early in his career.

I'm not talking about a young Ty Law. Only the washed up, slow-as-molasses Ty Law we suffered watching last year.