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Old 05-11-2008, 11:49 AM  
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Okay, here is a place for the Golfers to talk about tournaments, clubs, swing help or thoughts.

Today is the Players Championship, which I think ought to be the 5th Major. Largest pot in the PGA. The daunting 17th, which seems to bring excitement every year. At least we will get to see Sergio blow up yet again.

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Old 03-27-2014, 08:06 AM   #4201
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A forged head will never last as long as a cast one, but a lot of it depends on soil type. Someone like me, who plays on courses made of clay, can use the same irons for years and years. If you play in a sandier soil it will wear down the face and grooves faster.

Browning and bag chatter is going to happen with blades. The true measure of wear is if the face is starting to look concave. If that's happening, or if you can notice a discernible lack of depth in the grooves, it's probably time to get a new pair.

If you have a hookup with Mizuno, just stay with them. They make the softest blades this side of Miura. If you want to drop a lot of extra coin, you can look for Miuras or Miura forgings of Mizunos (which is basically what every iron Tiger has ever played actually is).

It also depends on the amount of playability you want. Ninety-nine plus percent of golfers are better with some type of cavity, even a modified cavity.

The MP4s look beautiful, but are probably a slunt when you mishit them. The 64s can probably give you 90% of the playability and more forgiveness.
A slunt?

So if my MP-14s are still in good condition I'm probably not going to find a better blade. I should probably get a new set of irons so I don't wear out my 14s. Thanks for your input, Hamas.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:19 AM   #4202
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I haven't even had the time to play a round, but I've made a concerted effort to stand closer to the ball this year..
This is easily the best quick fix for golfers everywhere. I play 1/week and even I find myself drifting too far back from the ball at address. Your posture needs to be such that your arms hang straight down, not reaching for the ball.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:24 AM   #4203
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I haven't even had the time to play a round, but I've made a concerted effort to stand closer to the ball this year. I also noticed that I don't supinate my right arm very much, which gets me far above plane with a shut face. If I make a conscious move to supinate that arm on the takeaway I'm much more on plane and hitting the ball far more crisply.
Supinate. Never liked that word when talking golf. That's a pretty scary thought to force yourself to supinate. I've never seen you swing but maybe your working to hard to take the club away in one piece? Make sure your club head goes back first.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:36 AM   #4204
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A slunt?

So if my MP-14s are still in good condition I'm probably not going to find a better blade. I should probably get a new set of irons so I don't wear out my 14s. Thanks for your input, Hamas.
Maybe this what I need to concentrate on also. I'm a real duffer. For instance this year in 5 rounds I've shot 96, 86, 83, 96, 95.

In all the rounds over 90 I feel like I was reaching and tried to correct it but was unable to do so.

Also, I seem to be snap hooking my irons and even wedges. What causes this? Ball too far forward?
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:37 AM   #4205
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Supinate. Never liked that word when talking golf. That's a pretty scary thought to force yourself to supinate. I've never seen you swing but maybe your working to hard to take the club away in one piece? Make sure your club head goes back first.
Stand up. Turn your right forearm so that the palm of your hand faces forward. That's supination.

The terms always confounded me before I took an anatomy class.

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Old 03-27-2014, 08:40 AM   #4206
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Also, I seem to be snap hooking my irons and even wedges. What causes this? Ball too far forward?
Swinging too fast. Your hands are making contact before the rest of your body turns.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:45 AM   #4207
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Maybe this what I need to concentrate on also. I'm a real duffer. For instance this year in 5 rounds I've shot 96, 86, 83, 96, 95.

In all the rounds over 90 I feel like I was reaching and tried to correct it but was unable to do so.

Also, I seem to be snap hooking my irons and even wedges. What causes this? Ball too far forward?
It's pretty hard to really snap hook a wedge. You're probably pull-hooking them, which is different. There are four basic ways you can strike a ball

The clubhead's path influences initial direction: Outside in will start left; inside out will start right. The face angle determines the movement of the ball: A shut face will draw the ball, and an open face will cut it.

A combination of these factors influences ball flight.

Inside path with an open face=push slice.
Outside path with an open face=pull slice (by far the most common ball flight).
Outside path with a shut face=pull hook
Inside path with a shut face=push hook.

The degree to which you rotate your forearms will influence the amount of sidespin on the ball. If you snap your right arm fiercely over your left, you get a lot more hook spin. If you hold the angle off, it will cut.

If you are really snap hooking what is happening is you are coming from the inside and rolling your arms over (shaking hands with the target) really fast.

Best fix for that is to feel like you are hitting shots with your legs. It will sync your upper and lower halves.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:48 AM   #4208
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Stand up. Turn your right forearm so that the palm of your hand faces forward. That's supination.

The terms always confounded me before I took an anatomy class.

And a slunt is a combination of a slut and a ****.
Supination should be a natural thing. Slunt? I guess I really knew that.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:58 AM   #4209
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I'm going to be up in Osage Beach (Tan Tara Resort) the weekend of April 5th. Does anyone know what golf course I have to play or just some recommendations. Assuming the weather is ok that is.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:59 AM   #4210
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Maybe this what I need to concentrate on also. I'm a real duffer. For instance this year in 5 rounds I've shot 96, 86, 83, 96, 95.

In all the rounds over 90 I feel like I was reaching and tried to correct it but was unable to do so.

Also, I seem to be snap hooking my irons and even wedges. What causes this? Ball too far forward?
Standing to far from the ball and reaching can cause a lot of bad things. Setup and ball position means everything when hitting the golf ball. That's why a good setup routine is so important.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:14 AM   #4211
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I'm going to be up in Osage Beach (Tan Tara Resort) the weekend of April 5th. Does anyone know what golf course I have to play or just some recommendations. Assuming the weather is ok that is.
I'd call to make sure the courses up there either haven't already aerated the greens, or aren't about to.

Played Old Kinderhook yesterday and the greens were a ****ing joke.

If you want a recommendation, I think Osage National is the best public track up there.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:15 AM   #4212
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I'd call to make sure the course up there either haven't already aerated the greens, or aren't about to.

Played Old Kinderhook yesterday and the greens were a ****ing joke.
Thanks for the tip, but I'm not going up there just for the golf. I have to go for work, but was planning on playing a round on Saturday in my free time.
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Supination should be a natural thing. Slunt? I guess I really knew that.
It should be, but video of my plane and face angle showed that I was definitely not doing it.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:19 AM   #4214
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I definitely just picked up the R11s Taylormade driver, I know I'm a generation or two behind in driver tech but I absolutely crush that thing (straight with a slight fade). I have it set to neutral and 9.5 degree. Can't wait to try it out here in SA or in Houston next week.

Anyone else use Taylormade sticks?
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:23 AM   #4215
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I definitely just picked up the R11s Taylormade driver, I know I'm a generation or two behind in driver tech but I absolutely crush that thing (straight with a slight fade). I have it set to neutral and 9.5 degree. Can't wait to try it out here in SA or in Houston next week.

Anyone else use Taylormade sticks?
Nothing wrong with old "technology".

Hell, I carry an original Callaway Razr Fit driver - I've tried to knock it out of the bag by trying the X Hot Pro, Razr Fit Extreme, Ping G25, SLDR and Exotics XCG 6 - I get the best results from the old RF.
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