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Old 07-08-2008, 05:40 PM  
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Cubs acquire Rich Harden

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Cubs Acquire Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin
By Tim Dierkes [July 8 at 5:25pm CST]


5:36pm: The Cubs' press release is out. The Cubs get Harden and Chad Gaudin for Gallagher, Murton, Patterson, and catching prospect Josh Donaldson. Jim Hendry did his best to counter the Brewers' acquisition of CC Sabathia. The A's get three MLB-ready players plus a solid offense-oriented catching prospect

Harden, 26, has been dominant in 13 starts for the A's this year. The injury-prone Harden is a tantalizing player; he's only topped 130 innings once but has a career ERA of 3.42. The latest concern: decreased velocity/dead arm in his last start. Harden has a $7MM club option for '09, which is highly likely to be exercised.

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Old 07-08-2008, 05:57 PM   #2
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I wonder what move the Cards will make,Nl Central is getting crazy with pitching talent
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:58 PM   #3
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:00 PM   #4
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:03 PM   #5
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Gaudin is also a solid addition as well to their already solid pen. I think even Gaudin could start if needed for them.

Nice counter to Milwaukee's move
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:06 PM   #6
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This is a huge deal. The Cubs didn't give up anything of value.

Harden in the NL is murder.
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One concern: Harden is already injury prone. The bad mojo over the years of Prior and Wood may end up killing Rich in some freak accident.
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This is a huge deal. The Cubs didn't give up anything of value.

Harden in the NL is murder.
Moneyball doesn't get owned. It does the ownage. See who got the better deal in a couple of years.

Remember how the A's got Harden? Mulder for Harden? Worked out great for us the first year. Not so well the rest of the way.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:23 PM   #9
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This is a very good deal for Chicago.
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Moneyball doesn't get owned. It does the ownage. See who got the better deal in a couple of years.

Remember how the A's got Harden? Mulder for Harden? Worked out great for us the first year. Not so well the rest of the way.
what about dan haren. that deal worked out "ok" for Arizona.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:37 PM   #11
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Moneyball doesn't get owned. It does the ownage. See who got the better deal in a couple of years.

Remember how the A's got Harden? Mulder for Harden? Worked out great for us the first year. Not so well the rest of the way.
They got Haren for Mulder, not Harden. The other thing about that deal was there was still a huge prospect given up by St. Louis in Daric Barton, who was a top 100 prospect at the time(#28). The A's sort of lucked into the deal as Barton hasn't been all that good but Haren obviously worked out great for them. Beane has choked on some deals as well. Look at the Tim Hudson deal, where he got outfielder Charles Thomas, southpaw Dan Meyer and right-hander Juan Cruz. All household names, as you well know. This was a brutal deal by Beane.
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Figured it would be Burnett or Harden....
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I got to see Rich Harden kill the Braves in person, he was lights out. Great pickup by the Cubbies!

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Even if Harden does get hurt right away, it's not like the Cubs gave anything up for him...I hope they choke, but great trade imo.
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