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Old 08-24-2008, 01:46 PM  
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Has they game surpased Gun?

Always been a huge fan of Gun. I've loved his passion and desire to win but has the game changed in a way that it has outgrown Gun? The last couple of years it has looked like we are just not prepared. I know there is a lot of youth but almost of the youth but I didnt see Miami with much more experiance that KC and they were lightyears ahead of us.
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:49 PM   #2
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I have always been a big fan of Gun's as well but I think that is myopia about the late 90's more than anything else. I have not been able to see any of the games this preseason but if tackling is STILL an issue I have to start looking at Gun. There is no way that tackling should ever be an issue at this level but it seems to be consistent with Gun's defenses.

Count me as being off Gun's bandwagon.
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:52 PM   #3
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It seemed last year, if we had EVERY ONE of his top guys in there, we did well. But lose one, Edwards most glaringly, and it all fell apart.
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:53 PM   #4
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Gun was good when he had Marty around to hold his hand. Since then, not so much.
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Old 08-24-2008, 01:56 PM   #5
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Gun was good when he had Marty around to hold his hand. Since then, not so much.
I think this could be very accurate, sadly. I too have fallen off.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:20 PM   #6
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hes carls yes man. always has been. move on.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:21 PM   #7
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It is still kind of sad that they hired him back after getting shit canned as coach here. Not surprising, but sad.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:24 PM   #8
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Nothing wrong with his ability to scheme but I doubt today's player responds very well to the yelling. It would also help if his GM could supply him with a decent line but I know all the haters will say that is just making excuses.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:26 PM   #9
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I say he's earned his keep with the way his defense has played in a few road games the past couple of years. He's basically shut down Payton Manning twice with an over-matched defense. Not too many coordinators can say that.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:28 PM   #10
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gun has never been anything better than a position coach. the only reason gun has kept his job is because he sucks carls dick just the way carl tells gun to suck it.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:42 PM   #11
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I say he's earned his keep with the way his defense has played in a few road games the past couple of years. He's basically shut down Payton Manning twice with an over-matched defense. Not too many coordinators can say that.
but..but..Gun sucks. he cant coach the defensze no more!!11

In case you forgot..we don't exactly have all world talent on D..especially with Allen gone. If anything, It's Gun thats made this defense as good as it is
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:34 PM   #12
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10 years ago.

He hasn't coached what I'd personally consider a great defense since 1997.

That a long ride on that rep.
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:38 PM   #13
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Its pretty easy to get a rep as a great blitz coach when you had DT on the edge and great interior D-linemen, eh?
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:39 PM   #14
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Has they game surpased Gun?

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Always been a huge fan of Gun. I've loved his passion and desire to win but has the game changed in a way that it has outgrown Gun? The last couple of years it has looked like we are just not prepared. I know there is a lot of youth but almost of the youth but I didnt see Miami with much more experiance that KC and they were lightyears ahead of us.
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:46 PM   #15
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Yes it has passed him by. I'm now a big fan of young coaches, particularly when it comes to OC/DC's. Retread/Fired HC's rarely work when they take a step backwards. I beieve you've gotta have young guys that are hungry to get to the next level, that will TEACH and use aggressive playcalling with the primary goal of actually WINNING the damn game.
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