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Old 08-30-2008, 08:12 AM  
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Rove: VP pick made looking "through the prism of a candidate, not ... of president"

Right prediction, wrong candidate, wrong party.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/211583.php
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Karl Rove, prescient as always:
"I think [Obama's] going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."
Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."
Presumably this still holds true? (For comparison, Palin was mayor of a town that is not one of the ten largest in Alaska.)


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Old 08-30-2008, 08:23 AM   #2
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Rove was wrong about Kaine. IMO Kaine is much more qualified for the role of President than Obama.
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:02 AM   #3
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"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."


GREAT find.

Good god this is hilarious. I swear to god the Biden pick looks genious compared to Palin.
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:05 AM   #4
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Rove was wrong about Kaine. IMO Kaine is much more qualified for the role of President than Obama.
Again, what exactly qualifies you to be President? What experience do you need?
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:09 AM   #5
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:22 AM   #6
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:30 AM   #7
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Its ironic that an atheist chickenhawk has largely made his living pandering to the religious right.
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:49 AM   #8
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One inexperienced administrative senator with same career politician and no administrative experience as a VP to one career politician without administrative senator & a VP with administrative experience .

A Kaine pick still would have left the Obama ticket with out any foreign policy experience.


Hmmm, one of them have the upper hand here in experience. Comes down to who you believe. To each his / her own.
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:53 AM   #9
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One inexperienced administrative senator with same career politician and no administrative experience as a VP to one career politician without administrative senator & a VP with administrative experience .

A Kaine pick still would have left the Obama ticket with out any foreign policy experience.


Hmmm, one of them have the upper hand here in experience. Comes down to who you believe. To each his / her own.
The problem for McCain is that it used to be a clear advantage. Now it's not. It's all muddled now.

One way to look at it is that on the Dem side, Obama can turn to Biden if he needs a seasoned hand for guidance (Much like Bush argued about having Cheney around), and if he is killed, then Biden will be more than qualified.

McCain is unquestionably experienced, but if he kicks the bucket, then who will Sarah Palin turn to?

(*edit* BTW what's an "Administrative senator"?)
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:57 AM   #10
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Folks both Obama and Palin have thin resumes.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:00 AM   #11
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:03 AM   #12
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The problem for McCain is that it used to be a clear advantage. Now it's not. It's all muddled now.

One way to look at it is that on the Dem side, Obama can turn to Biden if he needs a seasoned hand for guidance (Much like Bush argued about having Cheney around), and if he is killed, then Biden will be more than qualified.

McCain is unquestionably experienced, but if he kicks the bucket, then who will Sarah Palin turn to?

(*edit* BTW what's an "Administrative senator"?)
Agreed, it will be a fear.

Since people like negative spin , how about a VP that has failed evry time he ran for POTUS. How supportive is the American people about that ?

Just another negative spin, one I mentioned that you can find about anything or anybody . That's all ........ it's easy to spin anything .
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:05 AM   #13
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Agreed, it will be a fear.

Since people like negative spin , how about a VP that has failed evry time he ran for POTUS. How supportive is the American people about that ?

Just another negative spin, one I mentioned that you can find about anything or anybody . That's all ........ it's easy to spin anything .
There's good ole Roy talking about how both parties do these things. Trying his hardest to be an independent.

It's like the little engine that could. Only he can't.
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That's all ........ it's easy to spin anything .
Well, you would know.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:07 AM   #15
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Folks both Obama and Palin have thin resumes.
Agreed .... Palin, just like Obama is fresh, full of ideas, claim to be tough, etc.

Both lack experience, but yet Obama preaches change, youth, this runs hand in hand with his theory. But yet Obama chose old ways as his experience, McCain chose young for a change.
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