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Old 09-20-2008, 11:06 PM  
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:09 PM   #2
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I think that is a great commercial, it would be better if it had the Obama camps seal of approval. I am afraid they don't have the guts to run such a strong ad.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:10 PM   #3
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"I did everything I could to get him elected and reelected".

That stings.

But overall, it's just another sad sniping ad in this bitter contest.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:33 PM   #4
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That's the best ad I've seen this election cycle.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:34 AM   #5
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"I did everything I could to get him elected and reelected".

That stings.

But overall, it's just another sad sniping ad in this bitter contest.
Would you consider that a "negative ad"?
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:35 AM   #6
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Would you consider that a "negative ad"?
Absolutely, it even has the disapproving deep voice guy sneer lines.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:37 AM   #7
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Absolutely, it even has the disapproving deep voice guy sneer lines.
See, I'm starting to wonder what are and aren't negative ads anymore.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:05 AM   #8
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See, I'm starting to wonder what are and aren't negative ads anymore.
Just about any ad now a day is, if you mention the other person in any way, it's considered negative smear.

I was watching CNN today, it claimed this and said since the conventions,Obama has ran 63% negative ads while McCain has ran 56% negative ads. They also said that Obama has out spent McCain in TV ads.

They said that this trend will get worst in the coming days and weeks.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:14 AM   #9
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It's considered a negative "smear" if it's patently false or improper.

That's much different than just a negative accusation.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:24 AM   #10
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I think that is a great commercial, it would be better if it had the Obama camps seal of approval. I am afraid they don't have the guts to run such a strong ad.
It's not about guts. It's about muddying the message.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:48 AM   #11
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Funny. As much as McCain sucks, he still has good shot at beating your Messiah...
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:56 AM   #12
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That is an awesome commercial.

Is that just a You Tube or one that will be on TV?

I found the Paul YouTube's to be much better than his TV commercials.

I think the restriction on free speech has something to do with such differences in hard hitting statements.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:07 AM   #13
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See, I'm starting to wonder what are and aren't negative ads anymore.
Jesus, what is so hard?

Non-negative - These are the good things I will do. These are the positive qualities I have displayed

Negative - This is why my opponent is unqualified. These are the mistakes my opponent has made. These are the shady connections my opponent has.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:30 AM   #14
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Jesus, what is so hard?

Non-negative - These are the good things I will do. These are the positive qualities I have displayed

Negative - This is why my opponent is unqualified. These are the mistakes my opponent has made. These are the shady connections my opponent has.
What is "These are the things that my opponent has said and done"?
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:33 AM   #15
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What is "These are the things that my opponent has said and done"?
Yeah, that's the innocent message in "John McCain broke Washington, can you really trust him?"
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