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Old 09-22-2008, 10:44 AM  
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A week after a high-profile send-up of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on "Saturday Night Live," the NBC comedy show returned to making fun of the Alaskan governor in a skit where New York Times reporters sought to probe the possibility Palin's husband, Todd, was having sex with the couple's own daughters.

"What about the husband?" asked a Times reporter during a mock assignment meeting for the paper. "You know he's doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It's Alaska."

The assignment editor for the Times, portrayed by actor James Franco, responded: "He very well could be. Admittedly, there is no evidence of that, but on the other hand, there is no convincing evidence to the contrary. And these are just some of the lingering questions about Governor Palin."

The skit featured a photo of one reporter and an on-screen message that stated, "In 2009 [reporter] Howland Gwathmey Moss, V was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for his Times series on unproven, yet un-disproven incest in the Palin family. Sadly, he was to die 3 months later, run over by a snow machine, driven by a polar bear."

The final shot showed an image of a New York Times page, with headlines that included:

"While No Direct Evidence of Incest in Palin Family Emerges, Counter Evidence Remains Agonizingly Elusive" and "In a Small Alaska Town, Doubts Still Linger."

The sketch seemed to be designed to mock how out of touch journalists from the Big Apple are when it comes to their knowledge of Alaska, with left-leaning, Manhattan-dwelling reporters mistaking a snowmobile for a "baptizing machine," a crucifix and a NordicTrack exerciser in photographs held up for them.

Some viewers expressed outrage.

"It is time the Palin family brought out the big guns. They need to sue General Electric, NBC, 'Saturday Night Live,'" said Al Barrs of Bascom, Fla. "This is clearly criminal and defamation of character of an entire family and state. All the above needs to be taken to their knees big time once and for all."

"What if somebody did one with this kind of humor on Obama and his daughters?" asked Jim Cash of Chattanooga, Tenn. "What an uproar there would be. This line of humor is tasteless and moronic and about as low as they could go. There simply must be an uproar over this. We cannot let this just pass."

But others, such as Ana Jimenez, believe the episode was all in good fun, since the program is a comedy show.

"Anyone that watched Saturday's show and believed the skit in which it was suggested that there was incest in the Palin household needs to have [his] head examined," said Jimenez. "The purpose of the joke (tacky and crude as it was, I did not care for it at all by the way) was to show how out of touch journalists are not an attack on the Palin household. Sheesh, get a grip!"

NBC's website for "Saturday Night Live" normally contains video clips of the show's comedy routines, but, interestingly, the clip of the incest sketch was never posted online.

The show opened with a brief skit making fun of truth-enhanced TV ads John McCain was approving for his campaign. One ad claimed that since Barack Obama was in favor of universal health care, that meant coverage for everyone in the entire universe, including terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:51 AM   #2
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:52 AM   #3
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I think it's over-the-top.

The only other thing I'm gonna say is, can you imagine the reaction if this had been a similarly distateful topic/skit about Obama? I think the reaction to that would be quite different from some libs on this board--from what I expect to be their reaction to this.
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:58 AM   #4
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While perhaps in bad (horrible?) taste, a libel suit is a non-starter. It's clearly a joke/parody what have you, and in that context you can say just about anything about a public figure.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:01 AM   #5
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:02 AM   #6
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While perhaps in bad (horrible?) taste, a libel suit is a non-starter. It's clearly a joke/parody what have you, and in that context you can say just about anything about a public figure.
Can you imagine the outcry if the parody/joke were about Obama? Seriously.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:05 AM   #7
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I watched it and I took it as mocking the journalists for these stupid stories not mocking Palin

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Old 09-22-2008, 11:05 AM   #8
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Uhh let's see we had the New Yorkers cover about Obama's being Muslim and we had some out cries about it but you know it doesn't rise to having your lollipop licked in the White House. And as such the sex innuendos are always going to have a bigger entertainment value.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:10 AM   #9
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Uhh let's see we had the New Yorkers cover about Obama's being Muslim and we had some out cries about it but you know it doesn't rise to having your lollipop licked in the White House. And as such the sex innuendos are always going to have a bigger entertainment value.
As cynical and jaded as I am sometimes, when I see the Bush-haters march out with their hyperbole and venom....I think the world would be a much better place if those folks were getting THEIR lollipops licked, because they've damn sure given him much more power than any President should have.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:18 AM   #10
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And that was on the Republican watch. The Democrats haven't been aggressive since they got the Congress. But that requires you have confidence you have the political capital to go after the Executive branch and that it isn't better spent at this time solving the existing problems. You tell me which is more important if the Executive Branch can be replaced altogether with someone of a different philosophy. Is that not more expedient.
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And in the political season you don't hold punches that might actually land on your opponent.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:43 AM   #13
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While perhaps in bad (horrible?) taste, a libel suit is a non-starter. It's clearly a joke/parody what have you, and in that context you can say just about anything about a public figure.
But does one become a public figure because spouse becomes a VP candidate? Shouldn't the children of the candidates be off-limits regardless? I remember the shitstorm that occured when Rush made comments about Chelsea.

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Uhh let's see we had the New Yorkers cover about Obama's being Muslim and we had some out cries about it but you know it doesn't rise to having your lollipop licked in the White House. And as such the sex innuendos are always going to have a bigger entertainment value.
But the difference in Obama is the fact that he was a Muslim at one time and he is running for office, so everything about him is subject to scrutiny. Even if there was cause for serious investigation, Mr. Palin still isn't the VP candidate. It would still make news, but not near as much as he was being investigated and he was the VP candidate.

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I watched it and I took it as mocking the journalists for these stupid stories not mocking Palin
I thought with the exception of the incest charge, it was totally poking fun at the NY media and the majority of the MSM. But I still think that the incest charge/speculation was out of line.

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And in the political season you don't hold punches that might actually land on your opponent.
But Mr Palin isn't the candidate, there is a difference on going after business associates of the candidates, because that has relevance. If Mr Palin was a spokesman for the campaign like Michelle Obama is, that is a different story. I have yet to see him give a speech on the campaign trail.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:59 AM   #14
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I watched it and I took it as mocking the journalists for these stupid stories not mocking Palin

didn't see it, but my take would be it's likely that was the intent.
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