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Old 09-23-2008, 09:57 PM  
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Iraqi PM Maliki: Bush Tried To Delay U.S. Withdrawal To Help McCain

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/20...timeline-2011/
Maliki: Bush Tried To Delay U.S. Withdrawal To Help McCain»

In an al-Iraqiya interview on September 17, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki discussed the state of negotiations between the U.S. and Iraqi governments regarding the eventual withdrawal of U.S troops from Iraq. Maliki said that “perhaps one of the two most important points is deciding the final date.” Transcript via Open Source Center:
MALIKI: Actually, the final date was really the end of 2010 and the period between the end of 2010 and the end of 2011 was for withdrawing the remaining troops from all of Iraq, but they [the Bush administration] asked for a change [in date] due to political circumstances related to the domestic situation [in the US] so it will not be said to the end of 2010 followed by one year for withdrawal but the end of 2011 as a final date. Agreement has been reached on this issue. They are willing to respond positively because they, too, are facing a critical situation.
President Bush has repeatedly insisted that the U.S. withdrawal would be dictated by military commanders and the situation on the ground, and not by political considerations. Now, according to Prime Minister Maliki, the Bush administration has attempted to time a withdrawal in a way that would benefit John McCain and the Republican Party. I would say that I’m shocked, but of course, this is the way that the Bush administration has always treated national security, as just another piece in a political game.

Last week, the right-wing fever swamp was bubbling up over an article by Amir Taheri, in which Taheri claimed that Barack Obama had “tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.” Not only did the story turn out to be a complete fabrication, now we find out that the complete opposite is the case: It is the Bush administration that tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay a draw-down of the American military presence, once again playing politics with America’s national security, and effectively repudiating past claims that a U.S. withdrawal will only be “dictated by the facts on the ground.”

Two questions: What did McCain know about this, and when did he know it?
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:05 PM   #2
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I can't wait until this criminal is out of office.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:20 PM   #3
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I can't wait until this criminal is out of office.
Agreed, though I have to admit I don't see how this would benefit McCain?
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:22 PM   #4
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Agreed, though I have to admit I don't see how this would benefit McCain?
The later the troops get out the worse it makes Obama look because he promised to get them back ASAP.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:22 PM   #5
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Agreed, though I have to admit I don't see how this would benefit McCain?
I believe that's the date that Obama said he would have the troops out by. They wanted to push it out a year so that it didn't overlap with Obama's plan.
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:32 PM   #6
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I love the source of the article. The Wonk Room. The Wonk Room? The effing Wonk Room?

Your source isn't a bit biased, is it jAZ?
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:37 PM   #7
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I love the source of the article. The Wonk Room. The Wonk Room? The effing Wonk Room?

Your source isn't a bit biased, is it jAZ?
Uhh, this is the source for the translation:

https://www.opensource.gov/login/log...2findex%2ehtml

OpenSource.gov provides timely and tailored translations, reporting and analysis on foreign policy and national security issues from the Open Source Center and its partners. Featured are reports and translations from thousands of publications, television and radio stations, and Internet sources around the world. Also among the site's holdings are a foreign video archive and fee-based commercial databases for which OSC has negotiated licenses. OSC's reach extends from hard-to-find local publications and video to some of the most renowned thinkers on national security issues inside and outside the US Government. Accounts are available to US Government employees and contractors. Register today to see what OpenSource.gov has to offer.

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Old 09-24-2008, 12:06 AM   #8
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Firstly, this is the only portion of the article that is actually sourced by your reference and the sourcing isn't complete:

MALIKI: Actually, the final date was really the end of 2010 and the period between the end of 2010 and the end of 2011 was for withdrawing the remaining troops from all of Iraq, but they [the Bush administration] asked for a change [in date] due to political circumstances related to the domestic situation [in the US] so it will not be said to the end of 2010 followed by one year for withdrawal but the end of 2011 as a final date. Agreement has been reached on this issue. They are willing to respond positively because they, too, are facing a critical situation

Secondly, the remainder of the piece was written by partisan hacks. Who? Oh, let's see shall we? How about 'nonpartisan' folks like:

Brad Johnson is a Research Associate for The Progress Report and ThinkProgress.org at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, focusing on climate issues. Brad holds a bachelor’s degree in math and physics from Amherst College and master’s degree in geosciences from the Massachusetts Institute for Technology. He is the co-author of Technomanifestos and the founder of HillHeat.com. Prior to joining the Center, he worked as a developer for Saatchi & Saatchi, Lextranet, and the Democratic National Committee. Brad grew up in Boston, Massachusetts.

Or the Editor of this fine 'nonpartisan' blog like sayyyyyy:

Faiz Shakir is the Research Director at the Center for American Progress and serves as Editor of ThinkProgress.org and The Progress Report. He holds a B.A. degree in Government from Harvard University and a J.D. degree from the Georgetown Law Center. Faiz has previously worked as a Research Associate for the Democratic National Committee, as a Legislative Aide to Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, and as a communications aide in the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. His writings have appeared in the Jerusalem Post, Florida Today, and Salon. Faiz has appeared on CNN, Fox News, and CNBC television, among other places, and has been a guest on many radio shows. (E-mail Faiz HERE.)

Don't even get me started on the topics of other 'nonpartisan' articles on the "thinkprogress" website. Before raising the hue and cry about some sort of malfeasance on someones part, checking the political leaning of the people writing the article may be a good idea. FWIW, I think Bush is a gigantic POS and tomorrow wouldn't be soon enough to see him gone.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:31 AM   #9
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The later the troops get out the worse it makes Obama look because he promised to get them back ASAP.
But by then, hasn't he been elected?
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:34 AM   #10
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I believe that's the date that Obama said he would have the troops out by. They wanted to push it out a year so that it didn't overlap with Obama's plan.
Not going to argue this, I just believe that the average joe or jill that vote don't pay attention to a degree that they will even notice. I could be wrong, but doubt it.
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