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Old 10-31-2008, 05:49 AM  
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OOOPs: Lofty Rhetoric and promises to hell. NObo tries to lower expectations. ROFL

Well, that didn't take long. I mean, I thought the guy would actually WIN before they started with the excuses why they can't or won't succeed in their lofty promises and souring, er, soaring rhetoric.

Watching Obots who claimed NObo would do all these things now pivot and explain why he can't should provide top quality entertainment value. Pop the popcorn, resisters.



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Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair”.

The aide said that Mr Obama himself was the first to realise that expectations risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Mr Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq. “The first hundred days is going to be important, but it’s probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference,” he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how “hard” it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.

“I won’t stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy – especially now,” Mr Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing “the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq”. Mr Obama’s transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Mr Obama emerge victorious next week. The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.

Yet Mr Obama and his aides are under no illusions about the size of the challenges the Democrat will inherit if he enters the Oval Office. Tom Daschle, the party’s former leader in the US Senate and a strong contender for the post of White House chief-of-staff in an Obama administration, said last month that the winner next week would have only a 50 per cent chance of winning a second term in 2012.

Not only will the next president take office with the country sliding into a potentially long recession — and mired in debt — but the challenges abroad are immense. There is an unfinished war in Iraq, a worsening situation in Afghanistan and an unstable and nuclear-armed Pakistan to contend with. Iran appears intent on acquiring the bomb and there remains the ever-present threat from al-Qaeda and Islamic extremists.

If he wins, Mr Obama will inherit a Democratic-controlled Congress, and might even have the benefit of a 60-seat filibuster-proof “supermajority” in the Senate. Such a scenario would allow him to push through legislation largely unfettered by Republican opposition. Yet it also means that should the country still be mired in recession in three years’ time, voters — who have short memories — will probably blame him and the Democrats on Capitol Hill. Those stakes have led Mr Obama to conclude that while expectations need to be tempered, big things need to be achieved very early in his first term, when he will still have the political capital to achieve some of his most ambitious legislative goals.

Having promised “real” change, the pressure will be on him to deliver. In the Colorado interview, Mr Obama added: “The next president has got to come quickly out of the box.”

The early priorities being lined up if he takes power are a mixture of symbolism and substance. He plans to make a major address in a big Muslim country early in his first term. Having pledged on the campaign trail to close Guantanamo Bay, he is also determined to make early moves to rid America of the controversial prison. Yet what to do with the remaining inmates looms as an intractable problem, as many of their home governments refuse to allow them to return.

Mr Obama’s first legislative goals will be to follow through on his pledge to cut taxes for the middle class and raise them for the wealthiest Americans, and to push through a hugely expensive Bill to provide near-universal health insurance.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:01 AM   #2
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You mean like live up to this Moses and the Chosen People moment?
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:53 AM   #3
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This is geared toward people like Meme and KCjohnny, you know the people who think he is the Messiah.
Most people are realistic in their expectations. Since the economy went to shit in the past few months, of course that will effect his overall plan, most could understand this.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:06 AM   #4
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This is geared toward people like Meme and KCjohnny, you know the people who think he is the Messiah.
Most people are realistic in their expectations. Since the economy went to shit in the past few months, of course that will effect his overall plan, most could understand this.
I don't think he's the Messiah, he's just been cast as one.

If most people were realistic in their expectations they would have been more skeptical of his snake oil sales pitch in the first place. No, people like this pretend friend to humanity ain't we all just f'ing great now let's get along happy horseshit but now that governance is a real possibility the Messiah and his acolytes are trying to get the bar down. This is made all the more absurd when you consider the makeup of the legislative that Barry would be dealing with.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:15 AM   #5
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Is he trying to say I won't get my huge tax cut and free healthcare that I was promised?

There will be lots of pissed of people next year.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:25 AM   #6
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Is he trying to say I won't get my huge tax cut and free healthcare that I was promised?

There will be lots of pissed of people next year.
There is already a LOT of pissed off people, thats why we are electing Obama!
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:33 AM   #7
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Obama goes from euphoria from winning to realistic emotion for the situation(s) at hand.

SHOCKING.

Dare I say it?

GAME CHANGER
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:39 AM   #8
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There is already a LOT of pissed off people, thats why we are electing Obama!
Maybe disappointed would be a better word.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:43 AM   #9
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Maybe disappointed would be a better word.
When you are at the bottom of the barrel, looking up, how disappointed can you be? Seriously?
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:45 AM   #10
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When you are at the bottom of the barrel, looking up, how disappointed can you be? Seriously?
The average Obama supporter believes he will do everything he has said he would. You and I may know better, but they don't. That is where the disappointment will come.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:49 AM   #11
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The average Obama supporter believes he will do everything he has said he would. You and I may no better, but they don't. That is where the disappointment will come.
You're a creationist. You're in a funny position to be claiming to "no" better than anyone.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:53 AM   #12
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You're a creationist. You're in a funny position to be claiming to "no" better than anyone.
So you feel people making under 250K will get a tax cut? Was that a cheap shot at my being a Christian?
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:55 AM   #13
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You're a creationist. You're in a funny position to be claiming to "no" better than anyone.
Man, that is a sweet post.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:58 AM   #14
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So you feel people making under 250K will get a tax cut?
These guys are mostly too young to remember Jimmy Carter, who BTW is to the right of BHO.

The silver lining here is that Obama will create a GOP landslide in the 2010 midterms and we will get the House back.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:02 AM   #15
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Man, that is a sweet post.
I'm devestated
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