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Old 11-02-2008, 06:10 PM  
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If McCain Wins All Toss-Ups He Still Loses... Unless...

From Meet the Press:

Brokaw: And Chuck, what about voter turnout and especially the organization of the two campaigns getting their people to the polls?

Todd: Well, we're seeing a lot of the early voting, a lot of long lines that's made folks question whether Georgia, South Carolina could end up being much closer than people thought because of this surge among voters, particularly African-Americans. And of course we've watched everything that's been happening in Florida and North Carolina this weekend, Tom.

Brokaw: And why would John McCain be spending so much time in Pennsylvania and New Hampshire in the final weekend, Chuck?

Todd: Well, it's a simple math problem that he's got. Heres our columns here. Im going to put all of the current tossup states in McCain's column and watch his number as it grows right up here. If you move all of these states over, Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, and Nevada -- you see the problem he's got. He's still at 252. 18 short. So what does that mean? If he pulls a Pennsylvania over, we see Obama goes done to 265, McCain gets his 273. Then you ask why New Hampshire? Thats the insurance policy. Nevada, a state that Obama right now has that narrow lead in, if that went to him, then McCain would need New Hampshire to get back over his 270. So it is the only path he's got left. They know this and that's why they had to figure out how to put Pennsylvania back in play. We don't know if it really is. We know he's spending a lot of time there and they had to figure out if New Hampshire, a state that's been incredibly kind to McCain's political career in the past, to see if it can resurrect him one more time.

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Old 11-02-2008, 06:48 PM   #2
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**** it. Kansas is going to McCain anyway so my vote doesn't mean shit anyway. I am going to vote FOR a candidate instead of against a candidate.

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Old 11-02-2008, 06:55 PM   #3
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New Hampshire should be hard Dem. What gives?
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:46 PM   #4
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**** it. Kansas is going to McCain anyway so my vote doesn't mean shit anyway. I am going to vote FOR a candidate instead of against a candidate.

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That's what I did.

Although, I would have voted Barr even if it were going the other way.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:12 PM   #5
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That's what I did.

Although, I would have voted Barr even if it were going the other way.
TV the next two days is going to be insane. I only hope a third party candidate can at least draw enough votes to be noticed. Doubt it will happen though.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:21 PM   #6
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TV the next two days is going to be insane. I only hope a third party candidate can at least draw enough votes to be noticed. Doubt it will happen though.
Nope, none of them have that " likability" that Obama has.

Sad, isn't it.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:22 PM   #7
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New Hampshire should be hard Dem. What gives?


There's no reason to believe that. New Hampshire has never been a hard Dem state. In fact, since 1860, they've went Republican 29 times, and Democrat only 9 times. Since 1980, they went Republican 4 times, and Democrat 3 times.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:30 PM   #8
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**** it. Kansas is going to McCain anyway so my vote doesn't mean shit anyway. I am going to vote FOR a candidate instead of against a candidate.

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i still think they need to change the electoral college so that people don't feel the way you do now.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:34 PM   #9
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i still think they need to change the electoral college so that people don't feel the way you do now.
Until the EC is overhauled there will be millions that feel left out in the cold. I have never felt like my vote matters here in Kansas.

I still think it should be abolished for the popular vote. Then EVERY vote will matter.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:46 PM   #10
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**** it. Kansas is going to McCain anyway so my vote doesn't mean shit anyway. I am going to vote FOR a candidate instead of against a candidate.

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Old 11-02-2008, 08:48 PM   #11
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Nope, none of them have that " likability" that Obama has.

Sad, isn't it.
Yeah, I'll bet you cried yourself to sleep about it for months when it was Bush over Gore in 2000 and Bush over Kerry in 2004.

I'll admit I'm stunned the Dems weren't stupid enough to pick another stiff, wooden, and monotone speaker for their nominee.
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New Hampshire should be hard Dem. What gives?
They don't have many po' folk. No major urban areas either.
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