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Old 11-24-2008, 09:06 AM  
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For the Dumbasses: A Thread on Perspective

Since no one seems to have any common sense, I figured it might be nice to at least create one niche, one little cranny on this forum where people aren't running around in full "OMG ONOZ" mode.

Some of you people vacillate emotionally more than a 14 year old girl. Jesus tits, we ain't got time to bleed, so get over your menstrual flow.

Here is the reality of the situation:

QB: Thigpen is a promising quarterback, but you cannot consider him the answer or even a permanent solution. He hasn't shown that he can be a franchise quarterback yet. It doesn't mean he can't be one, but it shouldn't be assumed that he can be one.

RB: Charles is a great guy for a Felix Jones role. Give him 12 touches a game, and he'll flourish. LJ has shown more this year in limited action than he did last year, but he's got 2 years left, max. You can keep him around, but even when healthy, he's not going to be more than a 1200 yard back

FB: Our Cox is a solid player. We don't need to draft a fullback ever. Anyone who says so gets shipped to the gulag.

WR: Bowe has all the talent in the world, he just needs to cozy up to a Jugs machine in the offseason and work rather than applying teeth whitener. Bradley is a serviceable player and should have a spot on this roster. Franklin is too young to know anything about. Every other WR can get the **** out.

TE: Tony is ageless. He doesn't rely on speed to get open, so as long as he can jump reasonably well, he will continue to be productive. Cottam got beat horribly on a couple of blocks yesterday, but it takes time, and he's learning from the GOAT.

LT: Albert is the solution. Period.
LG: Waters is competent
C: Niswanger needs to be replaced. He's simply not an effective center, and it's not due to his height.
RG: There is no one of value on this team at this position
RT: There is a slight chance either Herb or Richardson could contribute at one of the spots on the right side, but it cannot be counted on whatsoever. Herb could at least be a better version of Bober, so we can keep him around for cheap, and he's young.


DE: There is no one of value at this position. Hali and McBride are 3rd and 4th ends masquerading as starters. Hali is one of the worst ends against the run I've ever seen, made all the more pathetic by the fact that he is a decent sized player for the position. There's no reason to cut them, but there is also no reason to think that they, or Johnston can contribute.

DT: It's unknowable. Reports of Dorsey's demise are vastly overstated. Tyler hasn't really proven much either, but he's only a second year player, and isn't the under-tackle anyway. If you can find good value late in the draft or on the FA market, there's no reason not to bring a guy or two in.

OLB: Must be addressed. DJ hasn't lived up to expectations, and Williams is better suited as a Coverage backer in a strong Nickel, IMO. He's not an every down guy, but is a servicable rotation piece. MLB is the worst position on the D, but you don't need to spend a top 3 pick on a ****ing linebacker. Get over it. You can find great backers in rounds 2-4 of any draft.

S: Pollard is a bust, plain and simple. He doesn't have the brains or the speed to play the position. He should be fighting for his professional life in the offseason. Page is a nickel safety and rotational FS at best. He can't tackle, and he has marginal speed. He still takes horrible angles. Morgan is young and played a pretty decent game yesterday (that last TD wasn't his fault, you can't blame a safety for biting on PA when they just ran the ball down the entire length of the field.)

CB: Flowers is a keeper, and probably our best defensive player. Carr is a huge ?. Leggett has shown a lot, and should be able to stick as a Nickel back. I don't think he's starting caliber, but nickel corner is an important position.

ST: Barth and Colquitt are fine, Robinson shows flashes in the return game, but may lack the extra gear.

Coaches: Nearly everyone must go. The only ones arguments can even be made for are Gibbs, and Gailey. Period.

Player Personnel: Fire everyone.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:08 AM   #2
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You positing yourself as the voice of reason?

Follow your own advice.

Yeah.

That advice.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:11 AM   #3
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ST: Barth and Colquitt are fine, Robinson shows nothing in the return game, but may lack the extra gear.

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Old 11-24-2008, 09:12 AM   #4
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Pollard needs to realize that he can't make a big hit on every play. Sometimes, he has to settle for tackling.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:12 AM   #5
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You positing yourself as the voice of reason?

Follow your own advice.

Yeah.

That advice.
Johnny, I guarantee you that almost everyone on this board would take my football advice over yours. That's not saying much, but you are probably the least respected football poster on here. It's that simple.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:13 AM   #6
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If there a stud kicker there when we go to pick in the 3rd... we better ****ing take him.

No more of this throwing darts at a pile of names and signing whomever the dart stick to anymore.

I want the next Nick Lowery!
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:16 AM   #7
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If there a stud kicker there when we go to pick in the 3rd... we better ****ing take him.

No more of this throwing darts at a pile of names and signing whomever the dart stick to anymore.

I want the next Nick Lowery!
I didn't really pay attention to the long snapper this week. He was practically rolling it to Colquitt last week. Did he do better?
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:17 AM   #8
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I think we are going to be paying the price for the dorsey disaster for years to come
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:23 AM   #9
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I didn't really pay attention to the long snapper this week. He was practically rolling it to Colquitt last week. Did he do better?
Well... he got the ball there at least. Seemed ok from where I was but they were kicking to the other side of the field on that 45 yarder so it was hard to tell.

We need some serious help at LS.

Why we didnt give Gammon a call is beyond me.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:28 AM   #10
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HJ other than the part where you spout all the worthless crap at the beginning of your post, I agree with your points. You will find more agreement than disagreement and therefore discover that most are just as smart as you............either that or you are a dumbass like most.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:32 AM   #11
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If there a stud kicker there when we go to pick in the 3rd... we better ****ing take him.

No more of this throwing darts at a pile of names and signing whomever the dart stick to anymore.

I want the next Nick Lowery!
Oh you mean like when we passed on Mason ****ing Crosby to take a no talent, piece of sh*t from UCLA...

...I'm...I'm sorry...I don't know where that came from
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:33 AM   #12
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Oh you mean like when we passed on Mason ****ing Crosby to take a no talent, piece of sh*t from UCLA...

...I'm...I'm sorry...I don't know where that came from
yeah.... something like that
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:40 AM   #13
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:43 AM   #14
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Actually , we have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball, our problem really appears to be coaching.

I mean come on. 6 ****ing sacks!!!
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:43 AM   #15
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Johnny, I guarantee you that almost everyone on this board would take my football advice over yours. That's not saying much, but you are probably the least respected football poster on here. It's that simple.
It has nothing to do with your football knowledge and everything to do with you coming across like the 'end all' of every debate, in true cock sucker fashion. Why you come across so brash on the Internet speaks volumes about your real life personality.

That being said I agree with most of what you wrote. We have way to many holes to fill to even begin to accomplish them via the draft. Hell, that's what these aholes were supposed to of done during the last draft. This debacle will take years to fix.
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