Life Making it right

Over-Head · 08:13 PM

Perhaps it was RJ's post that got me thinking.
Perhaps it ws the phone call I got from my nan on Friday.
Either way, I made a huge descission this weekend, (after crying my eyes out through most of it) to make a dreadfull mistake somehow change.

A lot of the oldtimers know there are a few of us "Ex-JW's" on this board.
We don't talk about it much, if at all. There are reasons.
Some of us have some still very bad and hatfull memories, some just cant be bothered as they have "since gotten on with life"
And if we do talk about it, it's mostly behind the sceans in pm

3 years ago my parents and I had our last falling out.
Things were said.
Having been a 3rd generation JW I knew where it was coming from.
I knew why is was happening.
I had left , and converted Catholic for the love a woman who rescued me from a Booz / pill dependency.
Now my parents were faced with a moral delima.
Thier teaching, or thier child.
As what I had done, made me an "apostate" to the WTSB (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) or JW's as their known, and the "most horrible thing in "their" religions eyes.

A few months ago, I found out through my grandmother who I inatially kept in contact with just to piss of my mother who never had any time for her step mother that dad had gotten hurt.
At the time, my mind set was "if I have to be thier son on thier terms, then they can be my parents on mine!" I couldn't care less.

Dad had gotten a hernia.
So what, now he and taht woman who turned their back on me can enjoy sharing some quality time together screaming and yelling.

After some ex-ray's, prostate cancer was found.
I said , oh well I may not like the man much right now, but I didn't want this to happen.

I've tried pretending for 3 years I don't care.
I've thought of every hatfull thing done to me by my family, and let it consume me.
Hating the fact my Grandmother (mom's side) let those 2 bible thumping fools into their house back in 1946.
Hating the fact I was hidden and kept from all family that wern't JW's. Hated having my childhood stolen from me.
Etc, etc, etc.

Anyway, this friday as allways I called my nan.
Usually she's say's "your fathers not well"
This week she said "your fathers not good"
Then told me my mother found out last monday she has a lump in her right lung the size of a walnut,and one in her left the size of an egg.
BOTH cancer.

So here's 2 people, alone, dieing of cancer.

Yesterday I sent an express mail to my dad.
With a very long letter, and every lose pic I could find of my son.
I told him I didn't want my son to NOT have the pic I always wanted.
Me, my dad, and my Grandfather.

UI'm sitting here wondering if he will accecpt teh package.
nan told me that even if my mother won't speak to me, my dad would.
I hope so.
I really miss my dad, and want him to meet my son.
Mom's a different story, and I'll handel it as it comes.
I'm heading home on teh 27th wether or not dad responds.
He's tried mailing me something twice. I refused it at teh post office both times.

I'm sitting here now tring not to break down and cry, (not doing a good job of it I might add,) checking teh UPS site every 5 mins to see if he signs for it.
I hope so,
I hope he gives a very stupid child one more chance to say he was sorrry, and try to make up some lost time.

This weekend I descided it's time for all the anger, hate, bitterness, hartach and seperation the WTSB has caused and bring it to end with in our family.
No one deserves to die alone, feeling their kids don't want them.

Now I can only see what tomorrow brings.

If there's any of you out there, who have a family member your not speaking to for some reason.
MAKE IT RIGHT
It doesn't matter why, but do what you have to.
I'm stupid for letting it take 3 years to figure this shit out, but at least I did.

For the first time in 15 years I learned something else.
I no longer hate the JW's, I pitty them.

Part 2:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=198083

**the Talking Can** · 12-09-2008, 07:11 AM

george carlin?

**BigRedChief** · 12-09-2008, 07:23 AM

Whats a JW's?

**Bugeater** · 12-09-2008, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Whats a JW's?

I think it means Jehovah's Witnesses.

chief52 · 12-09-2008, 07:27 AM

Best of luck. You are certainly doing the right thing. Life is oh too short to let the little things break families up.

I got a call one day that my dad had died of a massive heart attack. I was 20. I was crushed and still miss him to this day. But at least I know how he felt about me and I know he died knowing how much I felt for him. It has always been a blessing.

Even if this first attempt to reconcile does not work out...give it another shot. It will be worth it.

JOhn · 12-09-2008, 07:28 AM

I Truely hope it all works out.
Got a brother I don't speak to anymore, don't even know were he's at. And to be honest I really don't care. Maybe one day I can forgive him but I've already done it to many time. Only time will tell.

btw sending you a PM.

For a faider fan, your all right in my book.

Over-Head · 12-09-2008, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOhn

I Truely hope it all works out.
Got a brother I don't speak to anymore, don't even know were he's at. And to be honest I really don't care. Maybe one day I can forgive him but I've already done it to many time. Only time will tell.

btw sending you a PM.

For a faider fan, your all right in my book.

I told my wife I'm going to punch my brother in the mouth for holding a kinfe to my throat 9 years ago when I see him.
Then I'll tell him why I hit him, and say "we can finish this, or become brothers. YOUR choice"
But either way the guy my brother bullied and terrorised for 30 odd years ain't the same guy comming back home 9 years later.
And I think with any luck I can finally make that ****er respect me, or I just opened a mighty big can of woopass, and BOTH of us are gonna walk away from this one hurting.

Over-Head · 12-09-2008, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief52

Best of luck. You are certainly doing the right thing. Life is oh too short to let the little things break families up.

I got a call one day that my dad had died of a massive heart attack. I was 20. I was crushed and still miss him to this day. But at least I know how he felt about me and I know he died knowing how much I felt for him. It has always been a blessing.

Even if this first attempt to reconcile does not work out...give it another shot. It will be worth it.

I'm going home again regardless. They may not want to see me, but someting tells me that when their 2 year old grandson is standing on their door step, they might talk to him.
They used to do it with me.......Then again, they made ME hold the damn Watchtower and Awake

JOhn · 12-09-2008, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head

I told my wife I'm going to punch my brother in the mouth for holding a kinfe to my throat 9 years ago when I see him.
Then I'll tell him why I hit him, and say "we can finish this, or become brothers. YOUR choice"
But either way the guy my brother bullied and terrorised for 30 odd years ain't the same guy comming back home 9 years later.
And I think with any luck I can finally make that ****er respect me, or I just opened a mighty big can of woopass, and BOTH of us are gonna walk away from this one hurting.

I moved my brother here to WY, after he got out of prison in MO. Was hoping he had changed, and wanted to give him yet another chance at a fresh start. But the straw that broke the camels back was when he stole over a $100 from my youngest daughters piggy bank.

Havn't spoke to him since. Last I knew he married some broad and moved to Iowa, good riddence!!!

Over-Head · 12-09-2008, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOhn

Havn't spoke to him since. Last I knew he married some broad and moved to Iowa, good riddence!!!

Out crop dusting the wheat fields huhh?.......

InChiefsHeaven · 12-09-2008, 07:57 AM

Wow dude, God Bless. I can't even imagine what that would be like. I've known a few JW's in my time, and my conclusion is that they are not necessarily evil people, but they are severely misguided and very cult-ish. I pray for them though.

Prayers headed your way...

Over-Head · 12-09-2008, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

they are not necessarily evil people, but they are severely misguided and very cult-ish. ..

Very true.
Some of the kindest warm harted people whoyou copuld ever hope to meet and know. AS LONG AS YOUR ONE OF THEM

Funny how they all turned their back on me 5 years ago when I went home.
The gal who used to babysit me and change my diapers, lowered her head when I said hello, and walked away.

I won't tell you about "The Tim Horton's" incident.

But again, this isn't another "Let's bash the JW's" thread.
It's one about a man knowing the difference between whats right, And whats religuiously acecpted.

**pr_capone** · 12-09-2008, 08:07 AM

you have a PM bud

12-09-2008, 08:12 AM

People do the damnedest things in the name of God. You and I both know their actions have nothing to do with our God and everything to do with the ignorance of man. Their teachings are incredibly flawed and aren't anywhere to be found in my bible at all.

I'm glad you're able be the bigger person.

seclark · 12-09-2008, 08:12 AM

overhead...best of luck to you in trying to make good w/you family members. i think you're doing the right thing, regardless of how it all turns out.
i also hope you can hash things out w/your brother without coming to blows.

whatever happens...remember your "family" now is your wife and son. it sounds like you're very lucky to have them.

sec

12-09-2008, 07:09 AM
Over-Head Boom, Boom , Crash Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In my shed Casino cash: $9995760	Making it right Perhaps it was RJ's post that got me thinking. Perhaps it ws the phone call I got from my nan on Friday. Either way, I made a huge descission this weekend, (after crying my eyes out through most of it) to make a dreadfull mistake somehow change. A lot of the oldtimers know there are a few of us "Ex-JW's" on this board. We don't talk about it much, if at all. There are reasons. Some of us have some still very bad and hatfull memories, some just cant be bothered as they have "since gotten on with life" And if we do talk about it, it's mostly behind the sceans in pm 3 years ago my parents and I had our last falling out. Things were said. Having been a 3rd generation JW I knew where it was coming from. I knew why is was happening. I had left , and converted Catholic for the love a woman who rescued me from a Booz / pill dependency. Now my parents were faced with a moral delima. Thier teaching, or thier child. As what I had done, made me an "apostate" to the WTSB (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) or JW's as their known, and the "most horrible thing in "their" religions eyes. A few months ago, I found out through my grandmother who I inatially kept in contact with just to piss of my mother who never had any time for her step mother that dad had gotten hurt. At the time, my mind set was "if I have to be thier son on thier terms, then they can be my parents on mine!" I couldn't care less. Dad had gotten a hernia. So what, now he and taht woman who turned their back on me can enjoy sharing some quality time together screaming and yelling. After some ex-ray's, prostate cancer was found. I said , oh well I may not like the man much right now, but I didn't want this to happen. I've tried pretending for 3 years I don't care. I've thought of every hatfull thing done to me by my family, and let it consume me. Hating the fact my Grandmother (mom's side) let those 2 bible thumping fools into their house back in 1946. Hating the fact I was hidden and kept from all family that wern't JW's. Hated having my childhood stolen from me. Etc, etc, etc. Anyway, this friday as allways I called my nan. Usually she's say's "your fathers not well" This week she said "your fathers not good" Then told me my mother found out last monday she has a lump in her right lung the size of a walnut,and one in her left the size of an egg. BOTH cancer. So here's 2 people, alone, dieing of cancer. Yesterday I sent an express mail to my dad. With a very long letter, and every lose pic I could find of my son. I told him I didn't want my son to NOT have the pic I always wanted. Me, my dad, and my Grandfather. UI'm sitting here wondering if he will accecpt teh package. nan told me that even if my mother won't speak to me, my dad would. I hope so. I really miss my dad, and want him to meet my son. Mom's a different story, and I'll handel it as it comes. I'm heading home on teh 27th wether or not dad responds. He's tried mailing me something twice. I refused it at teh post office both times. I'm sitting here now tring not to break down and cry, (not doing a good job of it I might add,) checking teh UPS site every 5 mins to see if he signs for it. I hope so, I hope he gives a very stupid child one more chance to say he was sorrry, and try to make up some lost time. This weekend I descided it's time for all the anger, hate, bitterness, hartach and seperation the WTSB has caused and bring it to end with in our family. No one deserves to die alone, feeling their kids don't want them. Now I can only see what tomorrow brings. If there's any of you out there, who have a family member your not speaking to for some reason. MAKE IT RIGHT It doesn't matter why, but do what you have to. I'm stupid for letting it take 3 years to figure this shit out, but at least I did. For the first time in 15 years I learned something else. I no longer hate the JW's, I pitty them. Part 2: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=198083 Last edited by Over-Head; 12-09-2008 at 08:13 PM..
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12-09-2008, 07:11 AM	#2
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chief52 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NoCal Casino cash: $9855260	Best of luck. You are certainly doing the right thing. Life is oh too short to let the little things break families up. I got a call one day that my dad had died of a massive heart attack. I was 20. I was crushed and still miss him to this day. But at least I know how he felt about me and I know he died knowing how much I felt for him. It has always been a blessing. Even if this first attempt to reconcile does not work out...give it another shot. It will be worth it.
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12-09-2008, 07:28 AM	#6
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Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	People do the damnedest things in the name of God. You and I both know their actions have nothing to do with our God and everything to do with the ignorance of man. Their teachings are incredibly flawed and aren't anywhere to be found in my bible at all. I'm glad you're able be the bigger person.
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12-09-2008, 08:12 AM	#15
seclark MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: nemo Casino cash: $1779900	overhead...best of luck to you in trying to make good w/you family members. i think you're doing the right thing, regardless of how it all turns out. i also hope you can hash things out w/your brother without coming to blows. whatever happens...remember your "family" now is your wife and son. it sounds like you're very lucky to have them. sec __________________ "Mr. seclark. Wrong for gravy, wrong for jelly, wrong for biscuits." -rj "If every Planeteer who was disliked by another Planeteer stopped being a Planeteer we wouldn't have any Planeteers." -rj
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