Football AFC West: Extreme Makeover 2009

Mile High Mania · 01-13-2009, 01:55 PM

Well, this is going to be interesting...

The Chargers appear to be the only team returning in 2009 essentially as we saw them close out 2008. The Raiders... sure, they'll have a new HC and other changes, but until Al releases his grip on the throat of that franchise, I'm not sure what can be expected.

However, Denver and Kansas City are making incredibly drastic changes to their franchises this off-season and it will be very interesting to see how it all works out since they're both doing it at the same time.

Both KC and Denver have nice pieces in place and both have serious areas of concern... new faces at GM, HC and across the rest of the staff for both teams (we'll see what happens with the players soon).

All in all, I am excited to see what happens. It sucked seeing the division perform so poorly in 2008. It will be great to see the AFCW get back on top in the NFL and I hope it happens.

Chiefs' fans... your prayers have been answered, for your sake - I hope they deliver.

I know many Denver fans question what has happened there, but I'm very optimistic and I don't think change is a bad thing. I believe it had to happen.

Anyway - here's hoping for good things in 2009 and beyond. (more for the Broncos than anyone else... of course)

**DaFace** · 01-13-2009, 01:57 PM

Good post. I think Denver will have the upper hand for a couple years. Unfortunately for us, your offense is a force to be reckoned with if you can just get your defense in gear. However, I'm more hopeful for our long-term prospects than I've been in a long time.

Here's hoping the rivalry between the teams returns soon!

**Buck** · 01-13-2009, 01:57 PM

I think the Chargers will have the grips on the division at least for one more year, then we'll see a couple years down the road how the changes have helped KC/DEN/OAK.

IMO, Norv is out unless he wins a SB next year, no matter what.

Mile High Mania · 01-13-2009, 01:59 PM

We'll see... is LT done or was this just an off year? Can they find a way to get Chambers back to being a playmaker? They have their share of questions... things can turn around in a hurry, as we've seen time and time again.

**dirk digler** · 01-13-2009, 02:00 PM

Great post as usual MHM. It will be interesting to see McDaniels going up against a ***** built team.

PhillyChiefFan · 01-13-2009, 02:03 PM

Good post, I agree. Can't wait to see how this pans out.

I feel like a weight has been lifted off of this franchise.

**Buck** · 01-13-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

We'll see... is LT done or was this just an off year? Can they find a way to get Chambers back to being a playmaker? They have their share of questions... things can turn around in a hurry, as we've seen time and time again.

The big question is LT. He will be back next year, but lets see if he can perform.

Regarding Chambers...

When you have LT/Gates/Chambers/Vincent Jackson etc...

Someone is going to be left out of the picture. Chambers still has his presence, but I think they are putting their #1 corner on Chambers over Jackson, and Jackson is getting more chances because of it.

All that being said, I don't think that Denver or KC (or Oakland for that matter) are ready to take over as AFC West Champ yet.

Mile High Mania · 01-13-2009, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

All that being said, I don't think that Denver or KC (or Oakland for that matter) are ready to take over as AFC West Champ yet.

We'll see ... I don't think the gap between the teams is all that wide when you look at the teams. It depends on what changes are put in place.

Who will be the coach in KC?

Will Denver move to the 3-4?

Is Sproles a FA this year? I don't know if he's an every down back or not and I do think LT has peaked... he will still have his moments, but I don't think he's the LT they're used to having back there.

Otter · 01-13-2009, 02:10 PM

Yep. It wasn't too long ago AFC West was "the toughest division in football". Let's hope we get back to there for, if nothing else, good football.

Raiders need to get rid of Al and the West will be well on the road to recovery.

**Buck** · 01-13-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter

Yep. It wasn't too long ago AFC West was "the toughest division in football". Let's hope we get back to there for, if nothing else, good football.

Raiders need to get rid of Al and the West will be well on the road to recovery.

Whenever the AFC West is the toughest division in football, that means the Chargers are the worst team in the AFC West...I don't want to see that.

LOL

I seriously doubt the Chargers will win less than 10 games next year, but I guess you never know with Norv.

Luckily they won't have to worry about Ted Cottrell to begin the season like they have the past 2 years.

**HemiEd** · 01-13-2009, 02:13 PM

Dawn of a new day!

HemiEd is hoping they get this right, not sure how many more of these I will be around for.

Ultra Peanut · 01-13-2009, 02:21 PM

About LdT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotoworld

Chargers beat writer Nick Canepa believes LaDainian Tomlinson is unlikely to return to San Diego next season.

A reliable source, Canepa cites LT2's age, $8.8 million salary cap number, and the injuries that have kept him on the sidelines during the last two playoff runs. Asked how he would replace a Hall of Fame back, GM A.J. Smith replied, "You're assuming that, if we have to move on, we're not capable of getting another running back." The writing is on the wall, and Tomlinson's days in San Diego are numbered.

Mile High Mania · 01-13-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

I seriously doubt the Chargers will win less than 10 games next year...

Well, the 2009 schedules for the AFCW won't be easy... there is a lot of ugliness out there.

San Diego
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Miami, Philadelphia, Washington
Away: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Dallas, N.Y. Giants

Denver
Home: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New England, Dallas, N.Y. Giants
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Philadelphia, Washington

Kansas City
Home: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Dallas, N.Y. Giants
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Washington

Oakland
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, N.Y. Jets, Philadelphia, Washington
Away: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Houston, Dallas, N.Y. Giants

**Buck** · 01-13-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

About LdT:

First of all, his initials are LT, not LdT.

Secondly, hes coming back. I don't care what anyone says, he'll be back.

**Buck** · 01-13-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Well, the 2009 schedules for the AFCW won't be easy... there is a lot of ugliness out there.

San Diego
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Miami, Philadelphia, Washington
Away: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Dallas, N.Y. Giants

Denver
Home: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, New England, Dallas, N.Y. Giants
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Philadelphia, Washington

Kansas City
Home: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Dallas, N.Y. Giants
Away: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Washington

Oakland
Home: Baltimore, Cincinnati, N.Y. Jets, Philadelphia, Washington
Away: Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Houston, Dallas, N.Y. Giants

You guys sorta got screwed this year.

Normally Indy and New England are good for the 1st place team every year, but somehow they both finished 2nd this year...

01-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Mile High Mania Barrel Man - RIP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $67793	AFC West: Extreme Makeover 2009 Well, this is going to be interesting... The Chargers appear to be the only team returning in 2009 essentially as we saw them close out 2008. The Raiders... sure, they'll have a new HC and other changes, but until Al releases his grip on the throat of that franchise, I'm not sure what can be expected. However, Denver and Kansas City are making incredibly drastic changes to their franchises this off-season and it will be very interesting to see how it all works out since they're both doing it at the same time. Both KC and Denver have nice pieces in place and both have serious areas of concern... new faces at GM, HC and across the rest of the staff for both teams (we'll see what happens with the players soon). All in all, I am excited to see what happens. It sucked seeing the division perform so poorly in 2008. It will be great to see the AFCW get back on top in the NFL and I hope it happens. Chiefs' fans... your prayers have been answered, for your sake - I hope they deliver. I know many Denver fans question what has happened there, but I'm very optimistic and I don't think change is a bad thing. I believe it had to happen. Anyway - here's hoping for good things in 2009 and beyond. (more for the Broncos than anyone else... of course)
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01-13-2009, 01:57 PM	#2
DaFace Version 3.0 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $627681	Good post. I think Denver will have the upper hand for a couple years. Unfortunately for us, your offense is a force to be reckoned with if you can just get your defense in gear. However, I'm more hopeful for our long-term prospects than I've been in a long time. Here's hoping the rivalry between the teams returns soon!
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01-13-2009, 01:57 PM	#3
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $133328607	I think the Chargers will have the grips on the division at least for one more year, then we'll see a couple years down the road how the changes have helped KC/DEN/OAK. IMO, Norv is out unless he wins a SB next year, no matter what. __________________
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01-13-2009, 01:59 PM	#4
Mile High Mania Barrel Man - RIP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $67793	We'll see... is LT done or was this just an off year? Can they find a way to get Chambers back to being a playmaker? They have their share of questions... things can turn around in a hurry, as we've seen time and time again. __________________
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01-13-2009, 02:00 PM	#5
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $160806	Great post as usual MHM. It will be interesting to see McDaniels going up against a ***** built team.
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01-13-2009, 02:03 PM	#6
PhillyChiefFan Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Casino cash: $36529	Good post, I agree. Can't wait to see how this pans out. I feel like a weight has been lifted off of this franchise.
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01-13-2009, 02:10 PM	#9
Otter Inglorious Bastard Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Durango, CO Casino cash: $30973394	Yep. It wasn't too long ago AFC West was "the toughest division in football". Let's hope we get back to there for, if nothing else, good football. Raiders need to get rid of Al and the West will be well on the road to recovery. __________________ “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not” - Thomas Jefferson, 1801.
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01-13-2009, 02:13 PM	#11
HemiEd Same ol, same ol, 2009 again Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicagoland Casino cash: $7231149	Dawn of a new day! HemiEd is hoping they get this right, not sure how many more of these I will be around for. __________________ Everyone on board the 10 and 6 train, toot toot! Smith, Cassel, Thigpen, Huard, Green, Grbac, Gannon, Bono, Montana, Kreig, DeBerg, Kenney, Fuller, Livingston Don't dare take a chance on achieving excellence at the risk of failing at mediocrity.
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