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Old 01-13-2009, 10:37 PM  
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If Pioli wants to run a 3-4....

all I gotta say is Terrell Suggs!!!
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:43 PM   #2
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Might as well get rid of Dorsey then. He will never make it as a NT in a 34
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:46 PM   #3
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Some say Dorsey could fit as a DE in a 3-4.

Not me, but some. Turk would actually do well in that transition.

Tank would be toast, too.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:49 PM   #4
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:57 PM   #5
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I'm in the minority on this - I think Dorsey could be a very good 3-4 nose tackle. People have this image of him as a Sapp-like penetrator but in really that's not what he is. He only had 13 sacks and 7 pressures in 51 college games. But with his squat and strong base he can occupy blockers and hold the point of attack.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:59 PM   #6
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I'm in the minority on this - I think Dorsey could be a very good 3-4 nose tackle. People have this image of him as a Sapp-like penetrator but in really that's not what he is. He only had 13 sacks and 7 pressures in 51 college games. But with his squat and strong base he can occupy blockers and hold the point of attack.
I don't think he has the size.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:59 PM   #7
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Some say Dorsey could fit as a DE in a 3-4.

Not me, but some. Turk would actually do well in that transition.

Tank would be toast, too.
I think Tank would fare well as a 3-4 DE, actually.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:00 PM   #8
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I'm in the minority on this - I think Dorsey could be a very good 3-4 nose tackle. People have this image of him as a Sapp-like penetrator but in really that's not what he is. He only had 13 sacks and 7 pressures in 51 college games. But with his squat and strong base he can occupy blockers and hold the point of attack.
They have that image of him because he doesn't have outstanding lower body strength. He would not fit well as a nose tackle. They'd have to ask him to go way out of his element. Might need to have him add 20+ lbs as well.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:04 PM   #9
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I don't think he has the size.
I think his body type is similar to a Casey Hampton. 6-1 and 310ish. Not all 3-4 nose tackles need to be Ted Washington. Check out Kelly Gregg of the Ravens (injured this year). Plus I remember the nose tackles Belichick used in NY when he was with Parcells. They weren't huge.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:08 PM   #10
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Pioli might keep Herm. Nick Athan on Metro said that Hunt and Herm agreed on a rebuilding project and that he might have insisted to keep Herm for one more season.

But the new coach will install the D and not Pioli is what i am guessing.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:10 PM   #11
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I think his body type is similar to a Casey Hampton. 6-1 and 310ish. Not all 3-4 nose tackles need to be Ted Washington. Check out Kelly Gregg of the Ravens (injured this year). Plus I remember the nose tackles Belichick used in NY when he was with Parcells. They weren't huge.
You're right, but Hampton is the exception, nto the rule. You're generally looking at needing someone with massive lower body strength (read, an immense ass) to get the job done.

Of course, good 3-4 NGs are tough to find in general...
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:11 PM   #12
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Pioli might keep Herm. Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan on Metro said that Hunt and Herm agreed on a rebuilding project and that he might have insisted to keep Herm for one more season.

But the new coach will install the D and not Pioli is what i am guessing.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:12 PM   #13
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I think both Dorsey and McBride could make the transition.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:28 PM   #14
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Dorsey is too small. McBride would have a better chance.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:32 PM   #15
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Pioli might keep Herm. Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan on Metro said that Hunt and Herm agreed on a rebuilding project and that he might have insisted to keep Herm for one more season.

But the new coach will install the D and not Pioli is what i am guessing.
I agree. I would think the head coach and his DC would decide aswell.
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