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Old 01-27-2009, 01:33 PM  
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GBN mock 1/25/09

2009 DRAFT PROJECTION


January 25, 2009

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Team
Player
POS
School
1 Detroit
Matthew Stafford
QB
Georgia
2 St. Louis Andre Smith
OT
Alabama
3
Kansas City Aaron Curry
LB
Wake Forest
4
Seattle
Michael Crabtree
WR
Texas Tech
5
Cleveland
Aaron Maybin
DE/LB
Penn State
6
Cincinnati Eugene Monroe
OT
Virginia
7 Oakland Jason Smith
OT
Baylor
8
Jacksonville Michael Oher
OT
Mississippi
9
Green Bay B.J. Raji
DT
Boston College
10
San Francisco Mark Sanchez
QB
Southern California
11 Buffalo Everette Brown
DE
Florida State
12 Denver Chris Wells
RB
Ohio State
13 Washington Brian Orakpo
DE
Texas
14 New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins
CB
Ohio State
15
Houston Jeremy Maclin
WR
Missouri
16
San Diego Rey Maualuga
LB
Southern California
17 New York Jets Alphonso Smith
CB
Wake Forest
18 Chicago D.J. Moore CB
Vanderbilt
19
Tampa Bay Percy Harvin
WR
Florida
20 Detroit (from Dallas) James Laurinaitis
LB
Ohio State
21
Philadelphia Knowshon Moreno
RB
Georgia
22 Minnesota Vontae Davis
CB
Illinois
23
New England Brian Cushing
LB
Southern California
24
Atlanta Peria Jerry
DT
Mississippi
25 Miami Michael Johnson
DE
Georgia Tech
26
Baltimore Clint Sintim
LB
Virginia
27
Indianapolis
Sen'Derrick Marks
DT
Auburn
28
Philadelphia (from Carolina) Eben Britton
OT
Arizona
29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks
WR
North Carolina
30
Tennessee Brandon Pettigrew
TE
Oklahoma State
31
Arizona
LeSean McCoy
RB
Pittsburgh
32
Pittsburgh
Duke Robinson
OG
Oklahoma


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Old 01-27-2009, 01:41 PM   #2
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I can't see us making an OLBer our top pick this year.
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Old 01-27-2009, 01:42 PM   #3
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The Chiefs can fix some of the LB problems in free agency.

I'd rather take Crabtree than Curry.
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Old 01-27-2009, 01:47 PM   #4
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Here's a good write-up on why Aaron Curry will NOT go in the Top 3:

http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftpicks.php

I've received a ton of e-mails from people asking me why I didn't consider Aaron Curry to the Rams or Chiefs in my 2009 NFL Mock Draft, and why I believe Mark Sanchez is a good bet to be chosen in the top three.

Rather than slap all of those e-mails together into one NFL Draft Mailbag, I thought I'd create a separate page outlining the history of the top three selections in the NFL Draft.

The following chart details which positions were taken with the top three selections since the 1998 NFL Draft:



As you can see, all the picks were either quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, offensive tackles or defensive ends.

There were exceptions that I bolded. In 2001, the inept Cleveland Browns took defensive tackle Gerard Warren No. 3 overall. He was a major bust. The year before, genius drafter Daniel Snyder selected LaVar Arrington second overall. Arrington had injury and attitude problems, and his career was consequently cut very short.

Going into more detail, here are how many of each position were taken in the first three picks since 1998:



So, what does all of this mean? Unless a team is convinced a certain linebacker will be the next Ray Lewis, and Daniel Snyder isn't involved, you can forget about one going in the top three picks.

Conversely, if there's a quarterback on the fringe of top-five consideration, there's a good chance he'll be chosen in the top three, assuming one of those teams could use an upgrade at the position.

Like Arrington and Warren, there are exceptions to the rule. Some quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Brady Quinn bottomed out completely.

Of course, those exceptions are the things that cause us to gasp in amazement and then rant about how dumb some of these NFL general managers are. And that's just what makes the NFL Draft so fun.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:00 PM   #5
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Why do you people keep pushing Sanchez on the 49ers? They already have 3 QBs on their team that could start for them. I have a feeling that Singletary is going to see what he has at QB and draft defense.


And I agree with 99% of the article above. Expect Brady Quinn didn't bottom out completely. He fell because Miami let him fall...and everyone after that didn't need a QB. Cleveland saw the opportunity to trade back up and grab him....and they did. I wonder how differently our team would be right now if we had taken Quinn instead of Bowe that year.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:01 PM   #6
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And I agree with 99% of the article above. Expect Brady Quinn didn't bottom out completely. He fell because Miami let him fall...and everyone after that didn't need a QB. Cleveland saw the opportunity to trade back up and grab him....and they did. I wonder how differently our team would be right now if we had taken Quinn instead of Bowe that year.
Quinn would have been in IR sooner than he was in Cleveland and the Chiefs wouldn't have a number one receiver.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #7
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only problem is that many people consider Curry a DE/LB guy

which means if the team thinks he can line up and sack the QB as a RushBacker then all those historical facts and figures are worthless.
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Old 01-27-2009, 02:57 PM   #8
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If you are a strict best available player theorist then you should be happy with Curry.
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Old 01-27-2009, 03:04 PM   #9
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If you are a strict best available player theorist then you should be happy with Curry.
That's far too high for a linebacker, unless he's Derrick Thomas, Lawrence Taylor or Ray Lewis.
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Old 01-27-2009, 03:31 PM   #10
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LaVar Arrington was a rush backer. It's not like he was a Cover Backer. Same with Derrick Thomas.

The last true cover back to be taken that high that I can remember was ****ing Aundray Bruce...how'd that turn out?

And Aaron Curry is not a DE/OLB by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old 01-27-2009, 03:53 PM   #11
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LaVar Arrington was a rush backer. It's not like he was a Cover Backer. Same with Derrick Thomas.

The last true cover back to be taken that high that I can remember was ****ing Aundray Bruce...how'd that turn out?

And Aaron Curry is not a DE/OLB by any stretch of the imagination.
I want to say that Bruce was a pass rusher at Auburn.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:23 PM   #12
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Here's a good write-up on why Aaron Curry will NOT go in the Top 3:

http://www.walterfootball.com/nfldraftpicks.php

I've received a ton of e-mails from people asking me why I didn't consider Aaron Curry to the Rams or Chiefs in my 2009 NFL Mock Draft, and why I believe Mark Sanchez is a good bet to be chosen in the top three.

Rather than slap all of those e-mails together into one NFL Draft Mailbag, I thought I'd create a separate page outlining the history of the top three selections in the NFL Draft.

The following chart details which positions were taken with the top three selections since the 1998 NFL Draft:



As you can see, all the picks were either quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, offensive tackles or defensive ends.

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Going into more detail, here are how many of each position were taken in the first three picks since 1998:



So, what does all of this mean? Unless a team is convinced a certain linebacker will be the next Ray Lewis, and Daniel Snyder isn't involved, you can forget about one going in the top three picks.

Conversely, if there's a quarterback on the fringe of top-five consideration, there's a good chance he'll be chosen in the top three, assuming one of those teams could use an upgrade at the position.

Like Arrington and Warren, there are exceptions to the rule. Some quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Brady Quinn bottomed out completely.

Of course, those exceptions are the things that cause us to gasp in amazement and then rant about how dumb some of these NFL general managers are. And that's just what makes the NFL Draft so fun.
I compiled a similar list in December and emailed it to a local radio show in an attempt to put a stop to the RT/LB at #3 talk. Of course it didn't work.

However, going by that list of positions taken in the top 3 over the last decade, it seems that at this early point before the draft there are no RBs, WRs, 4-3 DEs, and DTs worth the #3 pick and I don't believe we need to draft OT in the 1st. I believe our options are QB or trade back, and yes I understand how rare that happens.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:27 PM   #13
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only problem is that many people consider Curry a DE/LB guy

which means if the team thinks he can line up and sack the QB as a RushBacker then all those historical facts and figures are worthless.
If you think Curry is a rush backer I'm going to question if you've ever seen him play...
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:25 PM   #14
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Well, with that being said, we now know we need to set up a chart to show how unlikely it is to trade back from the top 3 position to nip that talk in the bud before this thread is over run by the 'trade-down' crowd.
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Well, with that being said, we now know we need to set up a chart to show how unlikely it is to trade back from the top 3 position to nip that talk in the bud before this thread is over run by the 'trade-down' crowd.
Not sure about top 3, but I believe the last time a team traded into the top 5 was 1999 when NO moved up to take Ricky Williams.
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