Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-30-2009, 01:50 PM  
Wilson8 Wilson8 is offline
Veteran
 
Wilson8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $6425
Alex Gordon

Interesting article...Alex Gordon working with former Royals Kevin Seitzer and Joe Randa. It would be nice to see Alex become a great baseball player for the Royals.

Gordon following new overall plan this winter

Friday, January 30, 2009 | http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...3dolney_buster

Kevin Seitzer went to a few Royals games last season, and he saw the talent and the power in third baseman Alex Gordon. But he also saw a hitter who seemed too conscious of pulling the ball -- and his swing was not conducive to the kind of consistency needed to haul a hitter through the inevitable struggles of a 162-game season.

So when Seitzer was named as the Royals' new hitting coach several months ago, he already had a good sense of adjustments he wanted to address with Gordon, the Royals' slugger. Weeks ago, Gordon started going out to Seitzer's place to work on his swing, and he feels as if he's made great strides as he prepares for the third season of his career.

"It's really about the approach, mentally," said Gordon, who also has been working on his defensive play with former Royals third baseman Joe Randa.

Gordon feels like he lost focus in his approach, and that in taking batting practice, he'd gotten into the habit of trying to launch the baseball. "I was trying to muscle up when I took BP," he said.

What Gordon and Seitzer have done in their work together is to change the hand path of his swing -- to change the way he swings the bat, to put him in a better position to use the whole field, to hit the ball up the middle and the opposite way. They've talked about making him more fluid in his swing, less rigid -- "letting his hands work better," Seitzer said.

Gordon starts each of their sessions with tee work designed to make him use his hands properly, with his feet essentially flat, "to get the mechanics going the right way."

Then, when he starts to take regular batting practice, they talk situations -- different counts, different runner alignments, different pitchers. The default swing for Gordon, throughout, is that approach to hit the ball the other way. It's an adjustment that Seitzer believes will serve Gordon well through the long season.

"I think there's probably 10-15 percent of the season when a hitter is smoking hot," said Seitzer. "There's about 10-15 percent of the season when a hitter is ice-cold, when they have no clue. And about 60-70 percent of the time, they feel OK, when they have decent days. Hopefully, we can shorten the ice-cold part for him, and increase the smoking-hot time."

Gordon had some really cold spells last season. His month-to-month OPS, at-bats, walks and strikeouts:

April: .799, 98, 10, 24
May: .745, 107, 13, 25
June: .748, 98, 14, 24
July: .704, 84, 14, 23
August: .877, 56, 11, 11
September: .888, 45, 4, 11

Gordon's work on his defense with Randa has been in cleaning up a lot of his mechanics, of getting his feet in the right position so that he doesn't have to rely so much on his arm, which has tended to drag as he makes his throws.
Posts: 1,626
Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Wilson8 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 01:56 PM   #2
booyaf2 booyaf2 is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Hays KS
Casino cash: $8205
Welcome to the minors Alex
Posts: 853
booyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutbooyaf2 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:00 PM   #3
Sure-Oz Sure-Oz is offline
Stay positive, don't give up
 
Sure-Oz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Casino cash: $9654
I hope this guy gets an above average season this year, it's year 3 now
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
Sure-Oz could ****ing track anyone in the country via Twitter. Dude makes me scared to leave the house.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
.
Sure-Oz in this mother****er. Resident Tweet master and maligned Royals fan.
Posts: 40,512
Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:12 PM   #4
DaWolf DaWolf is offline
Cry havoc...
 
DaWolf's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $6376
If Gordon doesn't blossom into a player this team has no chance...
Posts: 6,608
DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.DaWolf would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:14 PM   #5
Reaper16 Reaper16 is offline
Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat
 
Reaper16's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dystopia
Casino cash: $9438
Now that he seems to actually be working on his swing, he should bloom. Every ****ing Royals fan here on CP would comment on the obvious holes in Alex's swing last year, but apparently Mike Barnett didn't think to work with Alex on it. I'm glad Barnett is gone.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delano View Post
Reaper16's taste in beer, music, and literature are unmatched on this message board.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 32,794
Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:16 PM   #6
Sure-Oz Sure-Oz is offline
Stay positive, don't give up
 
Sure-Oz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Casino cash: $9654
He barely improved his #'s from year 1, he had his walks up, avg up, 1 more HR, i expect him to get 90 rbis this year and a higher avg. .247 and .260 isn't cutting it
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
Sure-Oz could ****ing track anyone in the country via Twitter. Dude makes me scared to leave the house.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
.
Sure-Oz in this mother****er. Resident Tweet master and maligned Royals fan.
Posts: 40,512
Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:16 PM   #7
DeezNutz DeezNutz is offline
PermaBanned
 
DeezNutz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jouissance
Casino cash: $8770
There's just too much talent there for him not to develop.

I'm going to surprised, and greatly disappointed, if he continues to be A guy and not THE guy (or something closer to it).
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by badgirl View Post
If you met me in person and didn't know who I was you would never guess it was me.
Posts: 47,045
DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:21 PM   #8
Sure-Oz Sure-Oz is offline
Stay positive, don't give up
 
Sure-Oz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Casino cash: $9654
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
There's just too much talent there for him not to develop.

I'm going to surprised, and greatly disappointed, if he continues to be A guy and not THE guy (or something closer to it).
The guy has always succeeded too, which makes it really disappointing. He has alot of raw power too. I have big hopes for him this year, atleast get the #'s up, esp in the power and rbi's dept.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
Sure-Oz could ****ing track anyone in the country via Twitter. Dude makes me scared to leave the house.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
.
Sure-Oz in this mother****er. Resident Tweet master and maligned Royals fan.
Posts: 40,512
Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:23 PM   #9
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $17222
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWolf View Post
If Gordon doesn't blossom into a player this team has no chance...

This...
__________________
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
Posts: 51,104
Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:30 PM   #10
Mr. Laz Mr. Laz is offline
Don't Tease Me
 
Mr. Laz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: KS
Casino cash: $1021967
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
Now that he seems to actually be working on his swing, he should bloom. Every ****ing Royals fan here on CP would comment on the obvious holes in Alex's swing last year, but apparently Mike Barnett didn't think to work with Alex on it. I'm glad Barnett is gone.
actually rumor has it, that MANY people have tried to get Gordon to work on his swing, including George Brett, and he would just nod his head but then keep doing it his way.

so maybe it wasn't Barnett has much as it was Gordon being a stubborn azz.
Posts: 83,835
Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:32 PM   #11
DeezNutz DeezNutz is offline
PermaBanned
 
DeezNutz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jouissance
Casino cash: $8770
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz View Post
The guy has always succeeded too, which makes it really disappointing. He has alot of raw power too. I have big hopes for him this year, atleast get the #'s up, esp in the power and rbi's dept.
This might add to Laz's point, too. Gordon has always been the best, so it would be easy to understand why he might have a "leave my swing the **** alone attitude."

It's clearly time to adjust now, though.

His walks were on the rise last year, and this gives me a lot of hope.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by badgirl View Post
If you met me in person and didn't know who I was you would never guess it was me.
Posts: 47,045
DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.DeezNutz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:33 PM   #12
Nixhex Nixhex is offline
Chiefn' It
 
Nixhex's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IndepMo
Casino cash: $5030
I think he comes into his own and tears it up this year.
Posts: 878
Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.Nixhex is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:37 PM   #13
SCTrojan SCTrojan is offline
Veteran
 
SCTrojan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Across the park
Casino cash: $7049
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
His walks were on the rise last year, and this gives me a lot of hope.
Agree - his OBP was up as a consequence. The prevailing wisdom is that the walks often come before the power. Let's hope that's what happens for Alex.
Posts: 2,064
SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.SCTrojan is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2009, 02:41 PM   #14
Mark M Mark M is offline
What time is it?
 
Mark M's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: You tell me ...
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz View Post
actually rumor has it, that MANY people have tried to get Gordon to work on his swing, including George Brett, and he would just nod his head but then keep doing it his way.

so maybe it wasn't Barnett has much as it was Gordon being a stubborn azz.
That was exactly the problem from the folks I've spoken to (including one inside the organization).

Basically, he's a nice guy and all, very smart, with huge skills. But he was also successful at all levels doing what he was doing, and wasn't sure he wanted to tinker with it. Even Brett's advice, while listened to with respect, was basically blown off.

But after his numbers didn't improve, there were some conversations about how he needed to suck it up and adjust. After all, everyone at this level adjusts all the time to keep ahead of the competition. So it was either that, or he'd be one of the biggest disappointments in MLB history.

Good to see they got through to him, because he should easily be a .300+ BA, .400+ on base, 30-40 HR, 90-100 RBI guy. Hopefully, this will help get him there.

MM
~~
__________________
ChiefsPlanet -- n. The place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.
Posts: 4,645
Mark M is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.Mark M is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.Mark M is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.Mark M is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.Mark M is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.Mark M is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2009, 03:57 AM   #15
Ultra Peanut Ultra Peanut is offline
v^V^v^V^v^V^
 
Ultra Peanut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Holland*
Casino cash: $5062
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz View Post
The guy has always succeeded too,
You mean like Billy Beane?
__________________
Posts: 39,502
Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.Ultra Peanut wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:27 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.