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Old 04-12-2009, 10:29 AM  
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Falcons after Gonzalez

Sorry if re-post, didn't see it anywhere.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1331

The Falcons are reportedly interested in trading for Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez.
The National Football Post's Michael Lombardi says the Falcons are "seriously considering" the option, with their second-round pick as bait. Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt is attached to his franchise icon, but he might be convinced to part ways as the team rebuilds.

Atlanta has the 55th pick in the second. Maybe Jarron Gilbert or Paul Kruger although I'd rather see Tony stick it out here.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:26 PM   #151
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I'm of the belief you draft TE's in the mid rounds unless you are picking at the very end of the 1st and there's an athletic freak there.

I might consider using a low 1st on Jared Cook this year if I was a GM.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:26 PM   #152
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we've been watching the greatest ever.
Shhh, don't let milkman catch you typing that...
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:32 PM   #153
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I love that pic of Powers Booth lol. Everytime a player makes a demand, or 'else' etc, this pic always comes to mind.

Later TG. You've been awesome, but it's time for the fans to want a SB, not nice guys; specifially a 'nice guy' who's the best player on the team at the TE spot.

I hope he moves on and gets a ring; could care less if he 'stays' a chief. he'll enter the hall as a Chief and my great memories will be of his as a Chief.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:41 PM   #154
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How much of that was BECAUSE of Tony Gonzales, though? I think the position as a whole holds alot less value, we've just been spoiled because we've been watching the greatest ever.
Let's check out the pattern.

2000s - 13 TEs in first round, 13 in second round (9 years, generally 32 picks per year)
1990s - 9 in first round, 17 in second round (10 years, generally 30 picks per year)
1980s - 5 in first round, 12 in second round (10 years, roughly 29 picks per year)
1970s - 16 in first round, 16 in second round (10 years, roughly 27 picks per year)

One might ponder that, once upon a time, tight ends were valuable in an era where defenses could knock receivers off their routes. When the new rules changes came about in 1979 to limit contact with receivers, it killed the tight end as a first-round position through the 80s.

So why have tight ends been making a resurgence since the low tide of the 80s? If anything, the rules changes have continued to make them less valuable, as defenders aren't allowed to touch quick little receivers.

One theory might be the growth of west coast offenses and short, high-percentage passing games. A tight end might be a sure-handed guy who can thrive in the land of linebackers. Another might be the rise of zone blitzes and more sophisticated pass rushes, where a good tight end who can block and catch has become more valuable.

And of course in the past ten years, we've had the rise of the freaks like Tony G., who are basically a receiver inflated up to 250 pounds.

Interesting pattern, but I think it's undeniable that the rules changes of 1979 killed the position for a while.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:55 PM   #155
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Even a low-round #2 is a hell of an offer for Gonzalez.
We'd get that #2 back and still have an outside shot at trading down.
No we won't. Our #2 was at the 34th position. The one we will be getting is at 55. Quite a bit of distance there.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:56 PM   #156
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:58 PM   #157
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i say give Gonzo to them for their 1st and 4th
Far-fetched, but bold.

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Old 04-12-2009, 03:59 PM   #158
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That's kinda what I meant.
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:01 PM   #159
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A 1st for TG is a pipe dream. If they could get a 2nd for him, they should be all over it.
A high 2nd. Not 55.
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:03 PM   #160
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A high 2nd. Not 55.
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:07 PM   #161
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what makes you think we can't win 10 games next year? All we need is a pass rush...the offense will be there.


That's almost as funny as you and your friends peeing on each other.

The Chiefs will be LUCKY to win 4 games.

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Old 04-12-2009, 04:07 PM   #162
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That's almost as funny as you and your friends peeing on each other.

The Chiefs will be LUCKY to win 4 games.

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Someone forgot to show him the schedule.
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:09 PM   #163
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:11 PM   #164
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Someone forgot to show him the schedule.
You can say that every year about everyone's schedule.

I bet people were licking their lips last year to play the Dolphins, Falcons, Cardinals, Ravens, etc...

If Dane thinks we're only going to win 4 games this year he's crazy.
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:12 PM   #165
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The drafturbators rather see us win 1 game than 10 games...they think the playoffs are pointless without a Super Bowl win...

I don't see why.

Young team...a playoff berth would be awesome. A win would be FANTASTIC. Nothing wrong with winning 10 games this year and continuing to build behind a 26 year old QB and a defense with tons of young talent.
You really are a ****ing moron.

The Chiefs NEED a right tackle, center, right guard and right tackle. They NEED a speed WR, depth at running. They NEED a passing rushing DE or OLB, and defensive line help. They NEED depth at nearly every position.

Until these positions are adequately addressed, the Chiefs aren't winning jackshit.

Whether you like it or not.
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