Nat'l Security Nearly 20% of Texans in favor of Secceeding from Union - Page 4

Taco John · 04-17-2009, 12:45 PM

Friday, April 17, 2009

Thirty-one percent (31%) of Texas voters say that their state has the right to secede from the United States and form an independent country.

However, the latest Rasmussen Reports poll in the state finds that if the matter was put to a vote, it wouldn’t even be close. Three-fourths (75%) of Lone Star State voters would opt to remain in the United States. Only 18% would vote to secede, and seven percent (7%) are not sure what they'd choose.

Texas Governor Rick Perry, in response to a reporter’s question about secession at a protest "tea party," said Wednesday, "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot." The comment was widely reported in the media.

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The underlying views of Texans about government are generally similar to those in the rest of the nation. By a 73% to 11% margin, Texans trust the collective judgment of the American people more than the judgment of political leaders.

By a 62% to 21% margin, voters in Perry’s state believe that big business and big government typically work together against the interests of consumers and investors. And, by a 63% to 24% margin, Texans view the federal government itself as a special interest group.

Overall, seven percent (7%) of Texas voters have views that align with America’s Political Class or lean in that direction. Fifty-two percent (52%) of Texans hold views that can be considered populist or Mainstream. Nationally, those figures are seven percent (7%) for the Political Class and 55% for the Mainstream view.

When “leaners” are included, 15% of Texans can be counted as somewhat supportive of the Political Class while 73% hold the opposite perspective.

Texas voters who view the federal government as a special interest group are evenly divided as to whether or not their state has the right to secede. However, two-thirds (64%) of those who view the federal government as a special interest group would still vote to stay in the union rather than secede.

Nationally, the divide between the Mainstream and the Political Class is clear on an issue like immigration. While 66% of voters nationwide say it is Very Important for the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration, just 32% of America’s Political Class agrees.

The secession question was prompted by "tea parties" nationwide on April 15 to express frustration about the high level of new federal government spending. But President Obama has maintained solid approval ratings over the past month in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

In recent weeks, short-term expectations for the economy have improved dramatically, but longer-term expectations have moved in the opposite direction. Sixty percent (60%) of Americans now say it will take three years or longer for housing prices to recover. Confidence in the U.S. banking system is up slightly since February, though.

The Rasmussen Consumer and Investor Indexes, which measure confidence on a daily basis, ended a four-day skid on Friday.

In Texas, Perry finds himself in a challenging environment for reelection as he seeks an unprecedented third consecutive term as governor. Another Republican, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, will be running against him. Hutchison is viewed favorably by 67% of voters statewide, Perry by 55%.

Twenty-five percent (25%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Hutchison while only five percent (5%) of Texas voters have a Very Unfavorable opinion of her. For Perry, the numbers are 19% Very Favorable and 19% Very Unfavorable.

Among Republicans, Hutchison earns positive reviews from 83%, Perry from 78%.

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ILChief · 04-19-2009, 09:13 PM

Let them go. The Republicans will never win another Presidential election without Texas' electoral votes.

Raised On Riots · 04-19-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Let them go. The Republicans will never win another Presidential election without Texas' electoral votes.

Unless Ron Paul can pull off a miracle, Texas will never occupy the White House again.

googlegoogle · 04-19-2009, 10:01 PM

ceding from the union = better control of budgets. Clean slate. NO entitlement programs. Way less taxes. Election system that isn't corrupt.

Lots of positives. And loose Union of 'independent sovereign states' is what the founders wanted.

googlegoogle · 04-19-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Let them go. The Republicans will never win another Presidential election without Texas' electoral votes.

It would be a win for Texas. Other RED states would copy. Those that don't would be under Democrat/Federalist/Socialist control.

Raised On Riots · 04-19-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by googlegoogle

It would be a win for Texas. Other RED states would copy. Those that don't would be under Democrat/Federalist/Socialist control.

Aww...you gonna' take your ball and go home?

Typical GOP; tax the shit out of the working man, try to destroy the Unions for the sake of their "right to starve" bullshit, and cry "foul" when taxes go to anything that doesn't fund war.

Go ahead and secede; we'll civil war your asses back to the ****ing stone age this time, and I'll be happily leading the bloody charge.

BucEyedPea · 04-19-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Aww...you gonna' take your ball and go home?

Typical GOP; tax the shit out of the working man, try to destroy the Unions for the sake of their "right to starve" bullshit, and cry "foul" when taxes go to anything that doesn't fund war.

Go ahead and secede; we'll civil war your asses back to the ****ing stone age this time, and I'll be happily leading the bloody charge.

But your side are supposed to be pacifist pussies. You're supposed to just let us leave.

Raised On Riots · 04-19-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

But your side are supposed to be pacifist pussies. You're supposed to just let us leave.

Think what you will. The bottom line is; please try!

splatbass · 04-19-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

You're supposed to just let us leave.

Please do. Then we can build a wall, cut off federal funds, take back all military weapons, etc., and let you fail. Have fun.

Raised On Riots · 04-19-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Please do. Then we can build a wall, cut off federal funds, take back all military weapons, etc., and let you fail. Have fun.

splatbass · 04-19-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

I forgot a complete embargo, Cuba style. If they don't want to be part of the US they should have no help from the US.

KILLER_CLOWN · 04-19-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Please do. Then we can build a wall, cut off federal funds, take back all military weapons, etc., and let you fail. Have fun.

Build a wall? like the federal mandate to close the current borders? Joke

cut off federal funds? you mean the billions taken through federal taxes and few million given back with strings attached?

let you fail? errr thrive through much smaller taxation WITH representation?

Raised On Riots · 04-19-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I forgot a complete embargo, Cuba style. If they don't want to be part of the US they should have no help from the US.

Don't forget allying with Mexico for the invasion!

splatbass · 04-19-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Don't forget allying with Mexico for the invasion!

Mexico is invading Texas every day.....

splatbass · 04-19-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Build a wall? like the federal mandate to close the current borders? Joke

cut off federal funds? you mean the billions taken through federal taxes and few million given back with strings attached?

let you fail? errr thrive through much smaller taxation WITH representation?

I personally consider anyone who wants to secede to be guilty of treason. The funny thing is, it is the people that consider themselves to be super patriots that want to secede. Logic isn't their strong suit.

SBK · 04-19-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I personally consider anyone who wants to secede to be guilty of treason. The funny thing is, it is the people that consider themselves to be super patriots that want to secede. Logic isn't their strong suit.

You may have tons of logic, but you don't have much when it comes to understanding what treason is.

04-17-2009, 12:45 PM
Taco John 12on Paul Join Date: Jun 2001 Casino cash: $10085242	Nearly 20% of Texans in favor of Secceeding from Union Friday, April 17, 2009 Thirty-one percent (31%) of Texas voters say that their state has the right to secede from the United States and form an independent country. However, the latest Rasmussen Reports poll in the state finds that if the matter was put to a vote, it wouldn’t even be close. Three-fourths (75%) of Lone Star State voters would opt to remain in the United States. Only 18% would vote to secede, and seven percent (7%) are not sure what they'd choose. Texas Governor Rick Perry, in response to a reporter’s question about secession at a protest "tea party," said Wednesday, "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot." The comment was widely reported in the media. (Want a free daily e-mail update? Sign up now. If it's in the news, it's in our polls.) Rasmussen Reports updates also available on Twitter. The underlying views of Texans about government are generally similar to those in the rest of the nation. By a 73% to 11% margin, Texans trust the collective judgment of the American people more than the judgment of political leaders. By a 62% to 21% margin, voters in Perry’s state believe that big business and big government typically work together against the interests of consumers and investors. And, by a 63% to 24% margin, Texans view the federal government itself as a special interest group. Overall, seven percent (7%) of Texas voters have views that align with America’s Political Class or lean in that direction. Fifty-two percent (52%) of Texans hold views that can be considered populist or Mainstream. Nationally, those figures are seven percent (7%) for the Political Class and 55% for the Mainstream view. When “leaners” are included, 15% of Texans can be counted as somewhat supportive of the Political Class while 73% hold the opposite perspective. Texas voters who view the federal government as a special interest group are evenly divided as to whether or not their state has the right to secede. However, two-thirds (64%) of those who view the federal government as a special interest group would still vote to stay in the union rather than secede. Nationally, the divide between the Mainstream and the Political Class is clear on an issue like immigration. While 66% of voters nationwide say it is Very Important for the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration, just 32% of America’s Political Class agrees. The secession question was prompted by "tea parties" nationwide on April 15 to express frustration about the high level of new federal government spending. But President Obama has maintained solid approval ratings over the past month in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll. In recent weeks, short-term expectations for the economy have improved dramatically, but longer-term expectations have moved in the opposite direction. Sixty percent (60%) of Americans now say it will take three years or longer for housing prices to recover. Confidence in the U.S. banking system is up slightly since February, though. The Rasmussen Consumer and Investor Indexes, which measure confidence on a daily basis, ended a four-day skid on Friday. In Texas, Perry finds himself in a challenging environment for reelection as he seeks an unprecedented third consecutive term as governor. Another Republican, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, will be running against him. Hutchison is viewed favorably by 67% of voters statewide, Perry by 55%. Twenty-five percent (25%) have a Very Favorable opinion of Hutchison while only five percent (5%) of Texas voters have a Very Unfavorable opinion of her. For Perry, the numbers are 19% Very Favorable and 19% Very Unfavorable. Among Republicans, Hutchison earns positive reviews from 83%, Perry from 78%. Please sign up for the Rasmussen Reports daily e-mail update (it’s free)… let us keep you up to date with the latest public opinion news. See survey questions and toplines. Crosstabs available for Premium Members only. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...75_opt_to_stay
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ILChief Veteran Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $49372	Let them go. The Republicans will never win another Presidential election without Texas' electoral votes.
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googlegoogle Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $1040734	ceding from the union = better control of budgets. Clean slate. NO entitlement programs. Way less taxes. Election system that isn't corrupt. Lots of positives. And loose Union of 'independent sovereign states' is what the founders wanted.
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