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Old 05-08-2009, 04:03 PM  
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New trade chart??? 2009 trades.

If the trend continues next year, trading top picks will be easier with the new chart. I don't think it is correct, but it looks much closer than the previous chart when you look at the trades this year. So much for people saying that you couldn't trade out of the top 5 this year.

Chart is attached and trades are below:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30411657/
http://oldposts.profootballtalk.com/...hart-in-draft/


All the trades from the 2009 draft.

1, Cleveland traded its first-round pick to the New York Jets for the Jets’ first- (No. 17) and second-round (No. 52) picks, plus DE Kenyon Coleman, QB Brett Ratliff and DB Abram Elam. New York selected Mark Sanchez, qb, Southern Cal. Cleveland traded (No. 17) to Tampa Bay and selected David Lavitre, g, Oregon State.

2, Cleveland traded its first-round (No. 17) pick to Tampa Bay for the Buccaneers’ first- (No. 19) and sixth-round (No. 191) picks. Tampa Bay selected Josh Freeman, qb, Kansas State. Cleveland traded (No. 19) to Philadelphia and selected Coye Francies, db, San Jose State.
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3, Cleveland traded its first-round (No. 19) pick to Philadelphia for the Eagles’ first- (No. 21) and sixth-round (No. 195) picks. Philadelphia selected Jeremy Maclin, wr, Missouri. Cleveland selected Alex Mack, c, California and James Davis, rb, Clemson.

4, New England traded its first-round (No. 23) pick to Baltimore for the Ravens’ first- (No. 26) and fifth-round (No. 162) picks. Baltimore selected Michael Oher, ot, Mississippi. New England traded (No. 26) and (No. 162) to Green Bay.

5, New England traded its first- (No. 26) and fifth-round (No. 162) picks to Green Bay for the Packers’ second- (No. 41) and third-round (No. 73 and 83) picks. Green Bay selected Clay Matthews, lb, Southern Cal and Jamon Meredith, ot, South Carolina. New England traded (No. 47) to Oakland and (No. 73) to Jacksonville and selected Brandon Tate, wr, North Carolina.

6, Seattle traded its second-round (No. 37) pick to Denver for the Broncos’ 2010 first-round pick. Denver selected Alphonso Smith, db, Wake Forest.

7, Oakland traded its second- (No. 40) and fifth-round (No. 164) picks to New England for the Patriots’ second- (No. 47), fourth-(No. 124) and sixth-round (No. 199) picks. New England selected Ron Brace, dt, Boston College. Oakland selected Michael Mitchell, db, Ohio; Louis Murphy, wr, Florida and Stryker Sulak, de, Missouri.

8, San Francisco traded its second- (No. 43) and fourth-round (No. 111) picks to Carolina for the Panthers’ 2010 first-round pick. Carolina selected Everette Brown, dt, Florida State and Mike Goodson, rb, Texas A&M.


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9, Chicago traded its second-round (No. 49) pick to Seattle for the Seahawks third- (No. 68) and fourth-round (No. 105) picks. Seattle selected Max Unger, c, Oregon. Chicago selected Jarron Gilbert, dt, San Jose State and Henry Melton, de, Texas.

10, Dallas traded its second-round (No. 51) pick to Buffalo for the Bills’ third- (No. 75) and fourth-round (No. 110) picks. Buffalo selected Andy Levitre, g, Oregon State. Dallas selected Robert Brewster, ot, Ball State and Victor Butler, lb, Oregon State.

11, Miami traded its second-round (No. 56) pick to Indianapolis for the Colts’ second- (No. 61) and fifth-round (No. 165) picks. Indianapolis selected Fili Moala, dt, Southern Cal. Miami selected Sean Smith, db, Utah and Chris Clemons, db, Clemson.

12, Pittsburgh traded its second- (No. 64) and fourth-round (No. 132) picks to Denver for the Broncos’ third-round (Nos. 79 and 84) picks. Denver selected Richard Quinn, te, North Carolina and (No. 132). Pittsburgh selected Kraig Urbik, g, Wisconsin and Mike Wallace, wr, Mississippi. Sunday

13, Detroit traded its third-round (No. 65) pick to the New York Jets for the Jets’ third- (No. 76), fourth- (No. 115) and seventh-round (No. 228) picks. New York selected Shonn Greene, rb. Iowa. Detroit selected DeAndre Levy, lb, Wisconsin, Sammie Lee Hill, dt, Stillman and Lydon Murtha, ot, Nebraska.

14, New England traded its third-round (No. 73) pick to Jacksonville for the Jaguars’ seventh-round pick (No. 232) and 2010 second-round pick. Jacksonville selected Derek Cox, db, William & Mary. New England selected Julian Edelman, wr, Kent State.

15, Philadelphia traded its third-round (No. 85) pick to the New York Giants for the Giants’ third- (No. 91) and fifth-round (No. 164) picks. New York selected Asher Allen, db, Georgia. Philadelphia traded (No. 91) to Seattle and (No. 164) to New Orleans.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:10 PM   #2
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Sure if you make the top 3 picks worthless it's easier to trade them. We could of traded this year if we were just gonna give them away. In that new value chart the 1st pick is worth less than twice what the 20th pick is. In the old chart it was worth almost 4x as much.

It would be better to just get a rookie scale next year and bring the value of those top picks back up.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:18 PM   #3
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Mike Florio is so full of shit. Factor out the ineptitude on the part of the Browns and redo the chart and i'll CONSIDER looking at it.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:21 PM   #4
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Sure if you make the top 3 picks worthless it's easier to trade them. We could of traded this year if we were just gonna give them away. In that new value chart the 1st pick is worth less than twice what the 20th pick is. In the old chart it was worth almost 4x as much.

It would be better to just get a rookie scale next year and bring the value of those top picks back up.
the new chart seems to match what happened though. like the Sanchez trade:

Jets got #5 = 880 points

Browns got
#17 = 600
#52 = 178
3 players

the 3 players combined would have to be worth 102 points to make it equal according to the chart. that seems possible. that's like 3 5th round picks.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:23 PM   #5
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the new chart seems to match what happened though. like the Sanchez trade:

Jets got #5 = 880 points

Browns got
#17 = 600
#52 = 178
3 players

the 3 players combined would have to be worth 102 points to make it equal according to the chart. that seems possible. that's like 3 5th round picks.
Yea, but imo this year is the exception not the rule. That new chart Florio made is just a knee jerk reaction to a weak trade by Cleveland in a terrible draft year.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:24 PM   #6
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Because the Browns were willing to take it in the pooper, it's a precedent for the future? I don't think so.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:24 PM   #7
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Mike Florio is so full of shit. Factor out the ineptitude on the part of the Browns and redo the chart and i'll CONSIDER looking at it.

the pats trade with the Ravens follows the chart pretty well to:

Pats
23 = 495 points

Ravens
26 = 450
162 = 26

that's pretty close.
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Old 05-08-2009, 04:25 PM   #8
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Look at the 89 draft and see how ridiculous this new chart would be.
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