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Old 05-15-2009, 11:33 AM  
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:01 AM   #91
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all the malls are going to be ghost towns....at least thats what the liberal media wants you to believe. the liberal media is out there in full force with doom and gloom. fear is our biggest enemy. i know certain parts of the country are in worse shape than others but overall i dont think its that bad. i do find it interesting how a lot of you say the media gives obama a pass but at the same time they are painting pictures of a very desperate time..........
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I don't see any difference between the horrible economy they were presenting during the boom years of the Bush era and that which they paint today, except possibly that they don't attribute much blame to the WH nowadays.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:27 AM   #92
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I don't see any difference between the horrible economy they were presenting during the boom years of the Bush era and that which they paint today, except possibly that they don't attribute much blame to the WH nowadays.

The boom years of the Bush era, huh? You really believe the dow was worth as much as its highs in that time? I dont and that's one of the reasons why everything came crashing down as easily as it did, because it was inflated and it was false. Im not blaming Bush for all of this but he didnt do much to try to help the situation that was looming on the horizon. Kind of the same way you righties say Clinton didn't do enough to fight Al Qaeda when they knew there was a bigger problem than they acknowledged.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:43 AM   #93
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The boom years of the Bush era, huh? You really believe the dow was worth as much as its highs in that time? I dont and that's one of the reasons why everything came crashing down as easily as it did, because it was inflated and it was false. Im not blaming Bush for all of this but he didnt do much to try to help the situation that was looming on the horizon. Kind of the same way you righties say Clinton didn't do enough to fight Al Qaeda when they knew there was a bigger problem than they acknowledged.
Maybe so, but the reporters didn't know it then anymore than reporters who talked up the economy during the Clinton tech bubble knew what was about to happen. Look, there's no shame in admitting that our mainstream reportage is colored by the dramatically disproportionate support among reporters for the democrat party.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:48 AM   #94
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You took a lot more heat for your mall comment than these guys take for similar comments.
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Old 05-24-2009, 04:03 PM   #95
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all the malls are going to be ghost towns....at least thats what the liberal media wants you to believe. the liberal media is out there in full force with doom and gloom. fear is our biggest enemy. i know certain parts of the country are in worse shape than others but overall i dont think its that bad. i do find it interesting how a lot of you say the media gives obama a pass but at the same time they are painting pictures of a very desperate time..........
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:58 PM   #96
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The point was deflation will also make people spend, helps them through it. Inflation instead is the solution by our Keyenesian mainstream economists. You raised a good point about big ticket items vs small ticket items. Such things like clothes and movies did pretty well in the Great Depression too.
Buck, the problem is that you don't seem to recognize that deflation does as much long term damage to the economy as inflation.

Inflation helps people who take out loans, because they can pay with inflated dollars (such as governments heavily in the red).

Deflation helps people who hold loans, while harming people who pay back loans with money that is harder to obtain and has more buying power than the agreed upon amount.

Deflations helps people on fixed incomes, while killing the institutions and companies paying out those fixed sums. On the other hand, inflation murders people on fixed incomes.

However, you're so caught up in your idealogy, you see deflation as monetary correction, without recognizing its damaging effects.
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Old 05-25-2009, 09:47 AM   #97
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Buck, the problem is that you don't seem to recognize that deflation does as much long term damage to the economy as inflation.

Inflation helps people who take out loans, because they can pay with inflated dollars (such as governments heavily in the red).

Deflation helps people who hold loans, while harming people who pay back loans with money that is harder to obtain and has more buying power than the agreed upon amount.

Deflations helps people on fixed incomes, while killing the institutions and companies paying out those fixed sums. On the other hand, inflation murders people on fixed incomes.

However, you're so caught up in your idealogy, you see deflation as monetary correction, without recognizing its damaging effects.
So it's a problem for borrowers to pay back a loan with money that has more buying power than the agreed-upon amount due to deflation, but it's good for borrowers to pay back loans with money that has less? It's good in the short run for the borrower, I guess. You might ask Jimmy Carter how it worked out in the long run, though.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:53 AM   #98
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So it's a problem for borrowers to pay back a loan with money that has more buying power than the agreed-upon amount due to deflation, but it's good for borrowers to pay back loans with money that has less? It's good in the short run for the borrower, I guess. You might ask Jimmy Carter how it worked out in the long run, though.
I could be wrong, but I don't think he's saying that either one of them are good. He's just pointing out that the immediate victims/(temporary) beneficiaries are different in the two opposite cases.
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Old 05-25-2009, 11:08 AM   #99
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Have you ever paid estimated taxes? Quarterly sales taxes? 941 payments for employees? Self employment taxes? paid for 100% of your own health insurance premiums out of your profit? Capital gains taxes? Property taxes on your business property? Licensing fees from the local government? Fees for measuring devices by the county government? Workers compensation insurance?

All must be paid on time or penalties and interest will be added.

Maybe not an entrepreneur, but, you might be right about that government boogey man thing.
Which Marxist instituted all those taxes in the last 100 days?
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Old 05-25-2009, 05:21 PM   #100
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Which Marxist instituted all those taxes in the last 100 days?
None. But it was the Marxists masquerading as "progressives" during the Progressive Era that enacted them. Now,those who increase the rates are the latest Marxists marximizing things.
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Man, the threshold for "Marxism" is set so low in this forum these days. It's like "hey did you enact a zoning ordinance?" "You Marxist!" Parking ticket? "Marxist!" "I challenge you to a duel".

I guess it's just that the righties don't take it as well when they are out of power.
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Man, stock market just going deeper down the shitter . . .
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Man, stock market just going deeper down the shitter . . .
Stock market goes up, it goes down. It's very volatile right now. Unemployment? No volatility there, it just keeps growing and growing and...
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Market isn't really going down, though. It's up 100 points since this thread was started. More sideways than anything. Consumer confidence WAY up.
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:03 AM   #105
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Never. Bush fugged things up so bad, no one, not even him, the great and powerful O could overcome it. Therefore, we must elect O in 12 for MORE change.

That will be the campaign slogan, MORE change. He could hire Bon Jovi to sing. Living on a prayer, "we're half way there, aaaaaaaaaaahh livin on a prayer, take my hand, we'll make it I SWEAR!".
Regardless of which side you are on, that is funny stuff there.
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