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Old 05-15-2009, 09:53 PM  
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CP Cultural Hour: Shakespeare, Bach, Plato, Emerson, What's on your mind

Just brewed a cup of Earl Grey tea and added some lemon and honey so if anyone would like to discuss philosophy, poetry, classical music, cultural anthropology, or anything along those lines, please advise. Also typing pretty fast because the tea is strong.

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Old 05-15-2009, 09:56 PM   #2
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I've always found it curious that while Nietzsche read a lot of Emerson and was greatly influenced by him, their approaches to individuality were so divergent. Nietzsche, of course, is all about separating one's self from "the herd." But while Emerson prized individuality (read "Self-Reliance"), individuality for him was ultimately important so that one can better access the universal, or the Over-Soul. Emerson was much more democratic in his thought on individuality, something that Nietzsche left behind.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:01 PM   #3
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:02 PM   #4
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:03 PM   #5
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I was just listening to krzysztof penderecki's polish requiem and benjamin britten's war requiem and contemplating the differences and similarities in the way that each piece portrays the horrors of war in the twentieth century.

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Old 05-15-2009, 10:05 PM   #6
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I'm not sure why science should not be considered high culture. Einstein was smarter than all those folks, relatively speaking.
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I'm not sure why science should not be considered high culture. Einstein was smarter than all those folks, relatively speaking.
Shakespeare > Einstein.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:08 PM   #8
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:09 PM   #9
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:10 PM   #10
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:11 PM   #11
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:12 PM   #12
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If I could go back to college, I'd major in English with an emphasis on creative writing. Probably a dream that will never come true, but it's a dream of mine nonetheless.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:12 PM   #13
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I've always found it curious that while Nietzsche read a lot of Emerson and was greatly influenced by him, their approaches to individuality were so divergent. Nietzsche, of course, is all about separating one's self from "the herd." But while Emerson prized individuality (read "Self-Reliance"), individuality for him was ultimately important so that one can better access the universal, or the Over-Soul. Emerson was much more democratic in his thought on individuality, something that Nietzsche left behind.
That is interesting, Mr. Reaper16. It's fair to say that each of those men ultimately approached existentialism as vastly different concepts in terms of practicalism. Nietzsche's separation of man from a conceptual God certainly implies, if not outright declares, individualism whereas Emerson, as you say, preferred to think of man as uniquely separate, yet connected to God via ethereal means in a world where man exists to find and explore God whereas Nietzsche's purposes for man were self-exploratory.

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Old 05-15-2009, 10:13 PM   #14
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Nietzsche's purposes for man were self-exploratory.

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How ironic, I just finished exploring myself not 15 seconds ago.
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