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Old 05-16-2009, 08:38 AM  
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Gunther still unwilling to accept responsibility

It was all the rookies' fault!

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QUOTE TO NOTE: "For people to think you can put five rookies on a defense and stop anybody, you can do it for three quarters. But in the fourth quarter when the vet stands up and looks at you and says, 'Well, son, now it's time for me to kick your ass,' that's what they do."

-- Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, who played several rookies in Kansas City last year.
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:39 AM   #2
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:41 AM   #3
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He and Herm are soulmates.
I doubt it. Gunther threw Herm under the bus weeks ago:

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"I’ve gone through three years of playing zone defense because I was loyal to Herm Edwards. That’s what he wanted."
Translation: We sucked because of Herm. We sucked because of the rookies. It's not my fault. Never has been.
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:42 AM   #4
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:43 AM   #5
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:45 AM   #6
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I wrote this last night. Just for kicks.

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So we’re left with the Detroit Lions and the Kansas City Chiefs. Only one team can wear our crown. Who is it? What separates the coaching staff in Detroit from the coaching staff in Kansas City?

Both are headed up by men who were highly successful coordinators (Schwartz in Tennessee, Haley in Arizona) on their previous teams. Both have offensive coordinators who are former failed head coaches (Scott Linehan and Chan Gailey). Both have wide receivers coaches who previously played wide receiver in the NFL for the New England Patriots.

But only one coaching staff has Gunther Cunningham as defensive coordinator. Is this a negative or a positive? We’ll let history decide. Cunningham has served as a defensive coordinator on three different NFL teams across 12 seasons. Shocking fact: no defense led by Cunningham has ever won a postseason game.

While it is true that the 1993 Raiders won a playoff game in which Cunningham served as defensive coordinator, it was Oakland’s offense that won the game. Jeff Hostetler threw for 294 yards and three touchdowns. Napoleon McCallum ran for three touchdowns. James Jett and Tim Brown caught touchdowns.

Cunningham’s defense couldn’t stop John Elway from throwing for 302 yards and three scores of his own that day. Oakland’s offense simply outscored Denver’s. The Raiders needed every inch of their 427 yards.

So, technically, it’s true: no defense led by Cunningham has ever won a postseason game. In fact, this tradition dates back to 1979, when the California Bears lost the Garden State Bowl. Cunningham’s defense gave up 28 points that day.

How does Cunningham compare to Chiefs’ defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast? As we know, Pendergast’s Arizona defense turned in a brilliant performance in last year’s divisional playoffs, holding the Panthers to 13 points, shutting down Steve Smith and forcing Jake Delhomme into five turnovers. Pendergast’s defense won a postseason game!

Do we need any more proof? According to our elaborate and foolproof process of elimination, clearly, the Kansas City Chiefs are not the worst team in the NFL. However, they could be among the eight worst. Hopefully this helps Chiefs fans sleep at night.

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Old 05-16-2009, 08:49 AM   #7
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I doubt it. Gunther threw Herm under the bus weeks ago:
I'm speaking simply of the fact that both go to great lengths to eschew responsibility.
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:58 AM   #8
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Wow! Talk about denial.


Goonther will never accept responsiblity for his sorry job here in KC. Oh, well I think we're better for both him and Herm being gone IMO. It was obvious that the lack of endurance had little to do with rookies and more to the sorry coaching staff and their lack of conditioning and strength training. Just look at how hard everyone out of Arrowhead says Haley is working them.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:08 AM   #9
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Sure Gunther is going to deflect blame. If he admits it nobody would hire him.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:13 AM   #10
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Sure Gunther is going to deflect blame. If he admits it nobody would hire him.
Yep! The same it is with ANY Defensive Coordinator.

When was the last time you saw a D Coordinator stand up in front of the media and say "I couldn't coach a group of crack addicts to increase their intake, much less coach an NFL defense"? It won't happen... it is admitting abject failure, which is to essentially end your career.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:14 AM   #11
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I doubt it. Gunther threw Herm under the bus weeks ago:

Translation: We sucked because of Herm. We sucked because of the rookies. It's not my fault. Never has been.
I'm too lazy to do it, but there is an article here if you search for Gunther where he talks about how pissed off he is because people are saying that he has issues with Herm because of the zone, and that he has zero problems with it and welcomes it and it is a marriage made in heaven.

Gunther has no idea what a joke he has become...
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:21 AM   #12
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Gunther is as big a piece of shit as Herm Edwards, and that is saying something.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:26 AM   #13
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Gunther deserves to be jacked with for some of the things he's said about players, but don't think you have some big upgrade in Clancy Pendergast. He coordinated a defense that rarely played up to their talent level and was annually among the leagues worst.
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:49 AM   #14
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I will admit I was a Gunther fan but that was like 10 years ago. He is and was a part of CP IMO.

No proof and no results but a hero?

WTF.

We love hope like this every year!

I am betting the over now though. You know I am crazy but 6 is good. I mean in 1 year?
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Old 05-16-2009, 09:49 AM   #15
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Yeah, but who was worse, Gun or Greg Robinson? I tend to like an attack mentality as opposed to a read and react philosophy. So, maybe I'm a Gun apologist, though, he looked alot smarter when Jared Allen was with us.
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