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Old 05-20-2009, 07:03 PM  
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Google: More People Will Die From Swine Flu If We Cannot Retain Search Data

Google: More People Will Die From Swine Flu If We Cannot Retain Search Data

Co-founder makes ridiculous assertions to justify sidestepping privacy concerns

Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Google has cited a possible influenza pandemic as a reason why it should be allowed to permanently retain users’ search data without restrictions.

There is an ongoing debate within the European Commission as to how long web companies should be able to keep such data, with privacy advocates suggesting it be wiped after six months.

However, Google co-founder Larry Page has suggested that the company should not be hindered in retaining search data, rather ludicrously suggesting that the more restrictions there are on data retention, the “more likely we all are to die”.

“Our up-to-date influenza estimates may enable public health officials and health professionals to better respond to seasonal epidemics and pandemics,” Page is reported to have claimed at Google annual Zeitgeist conference in London.

He said Google’s ability to plot and predict potential pandemics would not be possible if the firm had to delete search data after six months, the BBC reports.


Sci-Tech website The Register points out that Google has previously boasted that its flu estimates are available each day because Google search queries can be automatically counted very quickly.

Which raises a question: if the point of using web searches to track disease is that the data is instantly available, how does data that is more than six months old help, let alone make us all less likely to die? The Register asks.

Only hardened cynics (ahem) would suggest that the push for long term retention of search data is intrinsically tied to Google’s mass profit making target advertising campaigns.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8058084.stm

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05...rch_retention/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/google-m...arch-data.html

Sounds like an episode of 24.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:42 PM   #2
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I can see where there might be a rule (law) in place with a minimum retention period of some sort like there is for various financial data. But I don't see the issue with longer retention. It could lead to some interesting historical searches for my grandkids someday.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:02 PM   #3
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I can see where there might be a rule (law) in place with a minimum retention period of some sort like there is for various financial data. But I don't see the issue with longer retention. It could lead to some interesting historical searches for my grandkids someday.
Yes but if 100 billion searches were googled for google it could crash the servers and cause y3k in the future.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:25 PM   #4
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There's not any rule on how long they can retain things here, right?

I thought you were anti-government almost all regulation and government involvement?
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:41 PM   #5
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There's not any rule on how long they can retain things here, right?

I thought you were anti-government almost all regulation and government involvement?
anti-government? no i'm anti-big-out-of-control-criminal-government, and i'm not against regulation as a whole. Finally yes government doesn't need to be involved in everything.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:46 PM   #6
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anti-government? no i'm anti-big-out-of-control-criminal-government, and i'm not against regulation as a whole. Finally yes government doesn't need to be involved in everything.
So you think we need a regulation on this here then?
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:01 PM   #7
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So you think we need a regulation on this here then?
It all depends on what approach is taken, I don't feel that we need to be so rigorously tracked and traced. What i've heard is all these databases track all your interests and likes and dislikes to the point they also predict what you will do in the future or what advertising schemes work best on an individual basis.
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:22 PM   #8
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It all depends on what approach is taken, I don't feel that we need to be so rigorously tracked and traced. What i've heard is all these databases track all your interests and likes and dislikes to the point they also predict what you will do in the future or what advertising schemes work best on an individual basis.
Well, it sounds like, absent any regulation, they're going to track you to their heart's content.
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:31 PM   #9
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Well, it sounds like, absent any regulation, they're going to track you to their heart's content.
Like i said i'm not against regulation, but how do we regulate the regulators? I mean if google hired the regulators or offered some money to look the other way what good does it do?
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Like i said i'm not against regulation, but how do we regulate the regulators? I mean if google hired the regulators or offered some money to look the other way what good does it do?
Did it work that way in Europe?
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Did it work that way in Europe?
It seems to work that way in our government.
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One of the most over blown stories ever. The scare tactics make me wonder who makes out on these deals...Government agencies that get set up to deal with these imagined threats never go away...the grow larger and need a scare every now and then to continue to get tax dollars and grow the little empires within empires.
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It is just the flu.....more people die each year of the "flu" that have died or will die from Swine flu. geez Louise.
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It is just the flu.....more people die each year of the "flu" that have died or will die from Swine flu. geez Louise.
It's a pandemic!!!!!!!!!!
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