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Old 05-21-2009, 09:41 AM  
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Taxpayers leaving high tax states

Obama Hasn’t Noticed People Leaving California and New York?

Taxes, fees, too much regulation, and a “hostile business environment” are reasons cited by people leaving California and New York.

Much of the media covering this story has a liberal bias so ground truth is difficult to find.

But here is a snip from the Orange County (CA) Register last April:

Attendees heard from more than a dozen businesspeople who complained of high workman’s compensation insurance, “predatory” regulators, an unfriendly business climate, a “never ending paper trail of business forms,” exorbitant utility expenses, fees, taxes, quality of life and overpriced overhead.

Randy York said he moved his polyurethane manufacturing business from Huntington Beach to Reno, Nev. in 1987 because he was tired of being “hammered” with regulatory fees from the fire department, the health department, the state Environmental Protection Agency, the California Division of Occupational Safety and Health and the South Coast Air Quality Management District.

He said it got to the point where he was paying $2,000 or $3,000 a quarter on fees – for company of 20 employees.

“They were killing us with fees,” he said. “Fees, fees, fees.”

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Old 05-21-2009, 09:42 AM   #2
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Ayup! There were tax revolts during the Depression too.
Also, more people will barter to survive too.
Not to mention how our black market, underground capitalism, has grown over time. The IRS is aware of this. Maybe that's why Obama is increasing the payroll of the IRS to crack down on us. Tyranny and fascism are here folks.
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Old 05-21-2009, 09:44 AM   #3
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Ayup! There were tax revolts during the Depression too.
Also, more people will barter to survive too.
Not to mention how our black market, underground capitalism, has grown over time. The IRS is aware of this. Maybe that's why Obama is increasing the payroll of the IRS to crack down on us. Tyranny and fascism are here folks.
I might just stop paying taxes altogether. Why not? Let them come after me (assuming my name among MILLIONS is pulled out of the hat).

Like Jim Morrison said "they got the guns but we got the numbers"

Heh heh.

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Old 05-21-2009, 09:49 AM   #4
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I might just stop paying taxes altogether. Why not? Let them come after me (assuming my name among MILLIONS is pulled out of the hat).

Like Jim Morrison said "they got the guns but we got the numbers"

Heh heh.

F U IRS!
Can I claim the Geitner or Rangel Rule?
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Old 05-21-2009, 09:53 AM   #5
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Again Missouri needs to adopt the Fair Tax so we can capitalize on these companies looking for a new place to do business!!
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Old 05-21-2009, 09:55 AM   #6
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You are ****ing stupid. OH NOES THEY TALKED TO A LITTLE OVER A DOZEN BUSINESS OWNERS WHO LEFT. OH NOES, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING IN DROVES.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:01 AM   #7
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You are ****ing stupid. OH NOES THEY TALKED TO A LITTLE OVER A DOZEN BUSINESS OWNERS WHO LEFT. OH NOES, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING IN DROVES.
Nope not people leaving in droves, but millions of dollars a year in potential tax revenue from these businesses are going out the door. Again, you tax people too much and they'll find a way around it, or leave. Thereby increased taxes won't necessarily increase tax revenue.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:01 AM   #8
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Can I claim the Geitner or Rangel Rule?
If someone pushed hard enough, it'd be interesting how that would stand in court. Gov't officials can pay without fees, but regular folks have to pay fees??
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:04 AM   #9
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Nope not people leaving in droves, but millions of dollars a year in potential tax revenue from these businesses are going out the door. Again, you tax people too much and they'll find a way around it, or leave. Thereby increased taxes won't necessarily increase tax revenue.
Obama will handle that though. With more controls.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:06 AM   #11
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Question is will they crumble from lack of revenue later? Oh I forgot, Obama's "Make-Work" will handle that.
Looks like that hydrogen highway you guys had won't go further.
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Tom Gollosiano(sp)? said last week he is leaving New York for Florida.........said it will save him 14,000 PER DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tom Gollosiano(sp)? said last week he is leaving New York for Florida.........said it will save him 14,000 PER DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really think he's the only one? I can tell you he's the only one dumb enough to brag about it. Audits for life for that guy....

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Couldn't have anything to do with the thousands of financial jobs lost could it? You are aware that their economy is dependent on the financial sector right?
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