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Old 05-23-2009, 11:00 AM  
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Serious BBQ Questions

As BBQ season is once again upon us, I thought I might get back into the real KC tradition of cooking and start smoking a lot more this year. Got a Weber Smokey Mountain smoker (along with a standard Weber kettle and a Genesis propane grill) that I plan on using as the primary implement of destruction. I was even thinking about entering some BBQ contests this year once I got my stuff together, which leads me to a couple of questions that I'd like to pose to you fine folk:

1. Anyone here do the BBQ competition thing? I was going to start small and enter as/in the "Backyard." Any pointers in terms of setup at the events such as items I might need/would want to bring outside of the obvious?

2. Based on my experiences of living in Kansas City for a number of years, I am partial to the longer smoking, lighter rub, heavy sweet sauce that typically defines KC style BBQ. However, I have always personally preferred beef ribs to the pork variety, and as such have usually made that my focus for BBQ in this manner doing very little pork. The competitions around here (Western mountain states) basically require pork and chicken for these competitions, with an obligatory "Wild Game" section. (Schools close in these here parts for the opening day of deer season.) Should I spend this next summer working on a dedicated pork only rub and sauce, or will my time tested, tried and true beef concoctions be sufficient?

3. In this homogenous global society we now live in, has anyone begun to incorporate the various regional styles of BBQ into their routines? (Memphis versus KC in particular.) I've always been a purist and do one or the other, making sure that people know that I've just prepared a mean to one specific style. Would it be considered sacrilege to consider using a mop sauce a la Memphis style then employ a molasses based KC sauce at the end, or other such things?

If you want to share any special methods or secrets to creating a great BBQ, please do so. Let's get the grills and smokers fired up and get it going! Heck, tailgating season is darn near upon us!
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:03 AM   #2
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:14 AM   #3
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About the only wild game I've smoked is venison and pheasant. I usually just prepare and smoke the venison like I would a tri-point . With pheasant I like to use the same spices I do on chicken the I stuff it with chopped onion, celery, and apples. Wrap it up with bacon and smoke it between 4 to 6 hours. Killer stuff.

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Old 05-23-2009, 11:15 AM   #4
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I'm on a competitive BBQ team and my first advice if you want to compete is make a list of all things you need, or do a competition close to your house, or have cash on hand. You will inevitably forget/need all kinds of equipment, spices, utensils, etc.

As for how to prepare BBQ for competitions, what you and your buddies think is awesome Q probably won't do well in a competition. You're being judged by all sorts of palates. The middle of the road is the high road.

Beef ribs are not normally part of a BBQ competition if it's a sanctioned event (or you live in Texas, I suppose). There are the four standard meats: pork ribs, pork butt/shoulder, chicken, brisket. There are usually a couple of other non-sanctioned events at most contests like sausage, or hot wings, or something a little different from the official meats.

Take a judging class. You'll get a better idea what the judges are looking for.

But most of all, have fun. BBQ competitions are a blast whether you finish in the Top 10 or dead last.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:20 AM   #5
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #6
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Even down here, sweet sauce wins.

And Carolinians don't know crap about BBQ. The best of the best around here are pretty mediocre on my palate. Having judged in KC and now down here in SC, I've seriously had some of the best SC has to offer, and it just ain't that good.

I have a sneaking suspicion it's the same in SLC. If you're not in or near one of the "meccas" of BBQ, you're going to find all kinds, and I suspect that not much of it is really going to be good.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #7
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:11 PM   #8
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You aren't serious about smoking or BBQ if you shy away from pork. You might want to try making jerky. That is a good use for beef.
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:23 PM   #9
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Even down here, sweet sauce wins.

And Carolinians don't know crap about BBQ. The best of the best around here are pretty mediocre on my palate. Having judged in KC and now down here in SC, I've seriously had some of the best SC has to offer, and it just ain't that good.

I have a sneaking suspicion it's the same in SLC. If you're not in or near one of the "meccas" of BBQ, you're going to find all kinds, and I suspect that not much of it is really going to be good.
I really like the traditional mustard and vinegar South Carolina sauces, but yeah, it's not like the Rockies are the mecca of BBQ by any stretch. Most places seem to follow a Memphis style versus a KC style, and that's why I was thinking about getting a little more involved from a competition perspective.

Also, as an additional question, should I stick with Baby Backs versus shorts or the like on the pork ribs? Sometimes going beyond the norm can bring a little attention, versus just heading down the same road as everyone else.
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:46 PM   #10
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I was on a team, but once the kids came along that dream has been put on hold. However, I still smoke all the time to keep up the skills.

1. Get a good/great grill/smoker that you are willing to keep several years. You will need to learn everything about it. How it cooks in the sun, clouds, rain, hot, cold etc. Knowing how your grill/smoker behaves is the first and foremost thing to making your items come out the same way every time. It will cost more money, but if you are serious about this your invest will pay off.

2. You and any team members NEED to take a K.C. BBQ Society certified judging class. This gives you great insight into what the judges are looking for. Once our team took the class we made a few changes and scores went up.

3. Sauce will not win you a contest. In fact many times sauce will cost you points. Sauce should be very light or better yet served on the side. Judges judge meat and taste. They view sauce as covering up mistakes. Tip learned from the judging class. However; sauce can help you in the "people choice" awards.

4. Don't worry too much about styles. Good BBQ is good BBQ the style is just a delivery system. Find things that you, your teammates, family and friends like. Then tweak from there. Make friends or get to know one or two certified judges and pay them to give you an independent evaluation based on their experiences. You can never have too much practice.

5. NEVER be afraid to ask questions of fellow smokers. We are tight and love to share stories. After all the final goal is the same for all of us....GREAT BBQ!!!!!
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:47 PM   #11
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You aren't serious about smoking or BBQ if you shy away from pork. You might want to try making jerky. That is a good use for beef.
Pork is for crackers who drink vinegar and have no taste buds.
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:54 PM   #12
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Pork is for crackers who drink vinegar and have no taste buds.
Depends on how you season it and cook it.
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:11 PM   #15
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3. In this homogenous global society we now live in, has anyone begun to incorporate the various regional styles of BBQ into their routines? (Memphis versus KC in particular.) I've always been a purist and do one or the other, making sure that people know that I've just prepared a mean to one specific style. Would it be considered sacrilege to consider using a mop sauce a la Memphis style then employ a molasses based KC sauce at the end, or other such things?
When I moved out to Cali, there were no good BBQ places so I had to learn smoking for myself. I'm usually constrained for time, so I've become partial to smoking tri-tip as it greatly reduces the time. I like to throw a salmon in with it for an appetiser. Fantastic!

I've also smoked ribs one time with cherry wood and served it with cherry dressing that had a little Asian flavor to it. Surprisingly good. Mmmmm, I miss KC!

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