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Old 06-02-2009, 07:28 AM  
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Cheney: No link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/...ech/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that he does not believe Saddam Hussein was involved in the planning or execution of the September 11, 2001, attacks.


He strongly defended the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq, however, arguing that Hussein's previous support for known terrorists was a serious danger after 9/11.

Cheney, in an appearance at the National Press Club, also said he is intent on speaking out in defense of the Bush administration's national security record because "a clear understanding of policies that worked [in protecting the United States] is essential."

"I do not believe and have never seen any evidence to confirm that [Hussein] was involved in 9/11. We had that reporting for a while, [but] eventually it turned out not to be true," Cheney conceded.

But Hussein was "somebody who provided sanctuary and safe harbor and resources to terrorists. ... [It] is, without question, a fact."

Cheney restated his claim that "there was a relationship between al Qaeda and Iraq that stretched back 10 years. It's not something I made up. ... We know for a fact that Saddam Hussein was a sponsor -- a state sponsor -- of terror. It's not my judgment. That was the judgment of our [intelligence community] and State Department."

Cheney identified former CIA Director George Tenet as the "prime source of information" on the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda.
Tenet "testified, if you go back and check the record, in the fall of [2002] before the Senate Intelligence Committee -- in open session -- that there was a relationship," Cheney said.

Hussein was captured by U.S. forces in Iraq in December 2003. In November 2006, the former Iraqi leader was convicted of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death. He was executed the following December.

Among other things Monday, Cheney also called the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention center a "good facility ... if you are going to be engaged in a world conflict, such as we are, in terms of global war on terrorism. You know, if you don't have a place where you can hold these people, the only other option is to kill them. And we don't operate that way." Watch what Cheney has to say about the detention facility
He reiterated his call for President Obama to declassify documents detailing the results of "enhanced interrogations" of high-value detainees.
Since Obama has already released memos detailing the interrogation methods, Cheney said, it is important to share the results of those interrogations with the public as well.

"I would not ordinarily be leading the charge to declassify classified information, otherwise they wouldn't call me Darth Vader for nothing," Cheney said.

But "once the [Obama] administration released the legal memos that gave the opinions that were used to guide the interrogation program, they'd given away the store. ... I [therefore] thought it was important to have the results that were gained from that interrogation program front and center as well."

On May 14, the CIA rejected the former vice president's request to declassify the documents. CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano, in a written statement, said the two documents are the subject of pending lawsuits and therefore cannot be declassified.

Cheney said Monday that the memos previously released also were the subject of ongoing lawsuits. He said Obama can release the additional documents with "the stroke of a pen."

On May 21, Cheney gave a full-throated defense of the Bush administration's enhanced interrogations of al Qaeda prisoners during an appearance at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.
He has said that the interrogations saved the lives of "thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands." He called the techniques the Bush administration approved "legal, essential, justified, successful and the right thing to do."
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:39 AM   #2
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In other words, he's remained consistent on this subject.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:51 AM   #3
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In other words, he's remained consistent on this subject.
That's the way I read it. Somebody will be along shortly to call us idiots though.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:59 AM   #4
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Cheney sure seems nervous these days. I wonder why?
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:01 AM   #5
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That's the way I read it. Somebody will be along shortly to call us idiots though.
Uh oh. When my wife gets here, tell her I'm busy doing something productive.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:01 AM   #6
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Cheney sure seems nervous these days. I wonder why?
What makes you say that?
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:05 AM   #7
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What makes you say that?
Well for starters, he just backtracked on a claim he'd been asserting forcefully in the face of near universal opposition for almost 7 years.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:07 AM   #8
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Well for starters, he just backtracked on a claim he'd been asserting forcefully in the face of near universal opposition for almost 7 years.
Are you talking about the thread title? If so, no he didn't.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:08 AM   #9
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Are you talking about the thread title? If so, no he didn't.
What?

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"I do not believe and have never seen any evidence to confirm that [Hussein] was involved in 9/11. We had that reporting for a while, [but] eventually it turned out not to be true," Cheney conceded.
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Initially, he held out the possibility that there was a connection based on reports that Mohammed Atta had met with an Iraqi intelligence agent in a European airport (Czech Republic iirc) prior to 9/11, but he never declared that a connection had been established. I don't remember if Cheney himself said so, but spokesmen for the Bush administration, and Bush himself, made it clear that they hadn't uncovered proof of a link between Saddam and the 9/11 plot fairly early on. Cheney never voiced any dissent about this.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:14 AM   #11
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What?
The key word in that quote is "confirm". They had evidence in the form of reports from a foreign intelligence agency that supported the theory for a while, but never any confirmation or anything solid enough to establish the connection to any degree of certainty. Cheney has been consistent. He never claimed that they had nailed down a link.

Is that all that made you think he was nervous?
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:38 AM   #12
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"Initially", meaning during the 2004 Presidential campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...iraq.al.qaeda/
Friday, June 18, 2004 Posted: 2:25 AM EDT (0625 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney said Thursday the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq, and he said media reports suggesting that the 9/11 commission has reached a contradictory conclusion were "irresponsible."

"There clearly was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming," Cheney said in an interview with CNBC's "Capitol Report."

"It goes back to the early '90s. It involves a whole series of contacts, high-level contacts with Osama bin Laden and Iraqi intelligence officials."
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:41 AM   #13
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Saying Al Qaeda has a relationship with Sadaam is not the same as saying Sadaam was part of 9/11. The Bush Admin never said Sadaam had anything to do with the 9/11 operation.

JAz you know this and you're being a ****ing tool.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:42 AM   #14
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Are you talking about the thread title? If so, no he didn't.
The Bush Admin never said Sadaam was part of 9/11. They did confirm there was a connection between Sadaam and Al Qaeda. The CIA said that. But 1 does not equate the other no matter how much the Left tried to make it.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:06 AM   #15
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Saying Al Qaeda has a relationship with Sadaam is not the same as saying Sadaam was part of 9/11. The Bush Admin never said Sadaam had anything to do with the 9/11 operation.
Why do we have to keep pointing this out?
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