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Old 06-08-2009, 05:16 PM  
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Check this out. This is a real picture of signs in cars on the showroom of Timberline Dodge in Portland:



I can't hardly believe what I'm seeing.

Also, I have to say that I'm at most impressed with the twist of ironic destiny that Chrysler is being sold to "Fiat." That's perfect!
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:18 PM   #2
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Also, I have to say that I'm at most impressed with the twist of ironic destiny that Chrysler is being sold to "Fiat." That's perfect!
Isn't there a car company named "annihilation of the separation of powers" that could buy them instead?
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:14 PM   #3
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The sign should say "GOVERNMENT FORCED SALE TO COVER THE LOANS WE SIGNED FOR AND COULDN'T PAY FOR AND THE BANKRUPTCY COURT WOULD NOT LET US WEASEL OUT OF".
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:17 PM   #4
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The sign should say "GOVERNMENT FORCED SALE TO COVER THE LOANS WE SIGNED FOR AND COULDN'T PAY FOR AND THE BANKRUPTCY COURT WOULD NOT LET US WEASEL OUT OF".
That is bullshit banyon. Many profitable dealerships are being forced to close. Your statement is total crap when directed to dealerships.

and you know this
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:25 PM   #5
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That is bullshit banyon. Many profitable dealerships are being forced to close. Your statement is total crap when directed to dealerships.

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Who is forcing them to close?
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:25 PM   #6
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The sign should say "GOVERNMENT FORCED SALE TO COVER THE LOANS WE SIGNED FOR AND COULDN'T PAY FOR AND THE BANKRUPTCY COURT WOULD NOT LET US WEASEL OUT OF".
The dealers were trying to weasel out of loans? Link?
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:29 PM   #7
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The dealers were trying to weasel out of loans? Link?
Obviously it's the companies affiliated with the dealerships.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:33 PM   #8
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Who is forcing them to close?
The car company via the new owners. There are several, several profitable dealerships being forced to close.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:34 PM   #9
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Obviously it's the companies affiliated with the dealerships.
Dude you are like blaming your local ABC news affiliate for problems at ABC.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:40 PM   #10
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The car company via the new owners. There are several, several profitable dealerships being forced to close.
Exactly, I have an aquiantence who owns a dealership. He diversified makes to ensure his success. He sold Pontiacs, Chryslers and Mazda's. He obviously lost his Pontiac line. Chrysler has pulled his dealership because he was a multiple make dealership. So he is down to Mazda. He pretty much got screwed in this deal.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:47 PM   #11
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The car company via the new owners. There are several, several profitable dealerships being forced to close.
Oh, I see. I thought the sign in the car window said something about the government forcing them to close. My bad. Thanks for straightening me out on that.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:48 PM   #12
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Oh, I see. I thought the sign in the car window said something about the government forcing them to close. My bad. Thanks for straightening me out on that.
Ok, play your stupid games. The government owns the car makers now...so they are telling them to close.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:50 PM   #13
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Ok, play your stupid games. The government owns the car makers now...so they are telling them to close.
Did they tell them to take taxpayer money? To file bankruptcy? Or to take out the massive debts that they couldn't pay for in the first place?
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:03 PM   #14
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Did they tell them to take taxpayer money? To file bankruptcy? Or to take out the massive debts that they couldn't pay for in the first place?
Separate argument. Unless you are conceding the point.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:12 PM   #15
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Did they tell them to take taxpayer money? To file bankruptcy? Or to take out the massive debts that they couldn't pay for in the first place?
You're all over the place, Ban. You keep referencing the deals made between the government and GM and acting as if the dealers were a party to them.

I don't know of any taxpayer money that this dealership took, do you?
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