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Old 06-09-2009, 02:16 PM  
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Are Czar's Constitutional?

Now that our Executive branch has designated no less than 16 czars, including the latest Pay Czar (the administration has named - Special Master of Compensation), I ask all - Are these czar's constitutional?
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:21 PM   #2
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I still think its funny that the commie left in America is so enamored with the appointment of various Czars.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:23 PM   #3
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There are so many czars packed into wasington right now we'll have to start calling them czardines!

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Heard that one on Lou Dobbs yesterday.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:24 PM   #4
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I believe he can delegate which ever he wants, but executive orders are not laws and only apply to areas of the President administrative domain.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:26 PM   #5
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All kidding aside because there a million jokes available but do you all feel it is constitutional? If they are only an advisor to the administration that's one thing but if they have any power at all, where does that fit in under our constitution?

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Old 06-09-2009, 02:26 PM   #6
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Do we call his wife the Czarina?
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:40 PM   #7
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Is there a list of these people and jobs?
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:52 PM   #8
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Is there a list of these people and jobs?
May be missing one or two:
Energy czar Carol Browner
Urban czar Adolfo Carrion, Jr.
Infotech czar Vivek Kundra
Faith-based czar Joshua DuBois
Health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle
New TARP czar Herb Allison
Stimulus accountability czar Earl Devaney
Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore
Terrorism (I thought they didn't use that word) czar John Brennan
Regulatory czar Cass Sunstein
Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske
Guantanamo closure czar Daniel Fried
Pay czar Kenneth Feinberg
Cybersecurity czar Melissa Hathaway
Great Lakes czar Cameron Davis
Auto czar Steven Rattner
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:55 PM   #9
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He can appoint anyone to any retarded title he wants. They can then make any statements they want. It only becomes unconstitutional when they start using their exclusive power to use force to make us do what those czars are saying.

Congress has been slowly delegating their powers to the President over the decades. War without a declaration, laws through executive orders and departmental regulations, etc.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:57 PM   #10
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I ess what worries me are statements like the below if true is unacceptable to me. What is the purpose of the cabinet appointees and their already hired staff? Did we buy-off on this and is this part of his budget reduction efforts - more salaries?

"Mr. Feinberg will report to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, but he is expected to have wide discretion on how the rules should be interpreted. Firms likely won't be able to appeal decisions that Mr. Feinberg makes to Mr. Geithner, according to people familiar with the matter."

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Old 06-09-2009, 02:58 PM   #11
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I don't know about that, but it seems to me like a Czar (in this context) is just a person who tells others to do what they should already be doing.

Also....what is the faith-based czar do?
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:07 PM   #12
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Oh, I forgot these
Great Lakes czar Cameron Davis
Auto czar Steven Rattner
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:15 PM   #13
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What about the Fema camp czar? How could we forget Rattner the rat?
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:28 PM   #14
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Us right-wingers will probably be telling our best czar-jokes all the way to the gulags...
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:31 PM   #15
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What about Article 1, Section 9, para 9 of the US Constitution:

"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States"

Is not the title of Czar a "title of Nobility"? I know its a petty point but isn't it?
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