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Old 06-15-2009, 02:01 PM  
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Obama spraks international controversey

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...y-freedom.html

U.S. accused of 'riding roughshod' over UK as Guantanamo detainees are sent to Bermuda in secret deal
But Washington insists deal was kept from London in an effort to protect UK's relationship with China huh?
Bermudian opposition tables no confidence motion in Prime Minister as deal ignites political firestorm on the island
PM admits he may not have agreed to take detainees in had he known the controversy it would cause
EU agrees to take in detainees




Way to ****ing go Barry.....now you think you can just run the world, heh?
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:04 PM   #2
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You know this isn't newsworthy. Only the Iranian protests. This should not be in the news. Iran 24x7 only.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:07 PM   #3
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This seems like a weird deal. I don't understand their thinking with regards to the detainee issue.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:08 PM   #4
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You know this isn't newsworthy. Only the Iranian protests. This should not be in the news. Iran 24x7 only.
The timing of this little operation is rather curious, to say the least.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:10 PM   #5
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It should be noted that these men have LONG been cleared of ANYthing, including any danger whatsoever. They are 100% innocent and deserve to be 100% free whereever they want like the rest of us.

So the firestorm by whomever about whatever seems like kabuki theatre to me. Why should anybody give a shit about totally innocent people being sent to their shores?
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:12 PM   #6
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It should be noted that these men have LONG been cleared of ANYthing, including any danger whatsoever. They are 100% innocent and deserve to be 100% free whereever they want like the rest of us.

So the firestorm by whomever about whatever seems like kabuki theatre to me. Why should anybody give a shit about totally innocent people being sent to their shores?
you are such a suck up. Obama can do no wrong in your eyes at all can he? If this was such non-deal why was it done in secret?
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:12 PM   #7
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They encountered a fisherman while walking along the beach and became curious about the art of fishing, their lawyer said.

The man offered to teach them, and one of the former prisoners, Khelil Mamut, tossed a line into the ocean. He caught a 10-inch fish to the cheers of the other men, she said.

Government liaison Glenn Brangman later took them swimming and watched as they climbed the rocks and jumped into the ocean like he did as a boy.

'Normally Bermudians test the temperature of the water,' he said. 'But they just went to the edge and jumped straight in.'
Yeah petez28, these guys are destined to become a menace.

A restaurant? They plan to poison us with Uighur waffles!
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:13 PM   #8
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If this was such non-deal why was it done in secret?
I have no ****ing clue. I would have done it in broad daylight.

I would have reported openly to the world that the United States is transferring innocent men from a legal limboesque prison to the free world. Bermuda, anywhere.

They deserve it.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:15 PM   #9
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The "firestorm" is about Bermuda acting without informing their English masters overlords partners:

Bermuda blamed

Britain, meanwhile, has expressed anger that it was not consulted, saying in a Foreign Office statement: "The Bermuda government consider this to be a matter regarding their day-to-day responsibility for immigration.

"We have underlined to the Bermuda government that it should have consulted the UK on whether this falls within their competence or is a foreign affairs or security issue for which the Bermuda government do not have delegated responsibility."

For the time being London has reserved its expressions of ire for Bermuda, with a spokesman for the UK prime minister insisting Bermuda bore "the primary responsibility for ensuring that the constitutional requirements on the Bermudan government were adhered to".

Britain is supposed to handle Bermuda's defence, security and foreign affairs, but it delegates the authority to make decisions on immigration to Bermuda.

The Foreign Office said it would "also be looking at the operation of the 'General Entrustment' which gives Bermuda the authority to conduct certain external relations on our behalf".

Britain is also now helping Bermuda carry out a security assessment of the resettled detainees.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8098341.stm
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:17 PM   #10
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It's also a firestorm because people are emotional rather than logical about it.

THESE MEN WERE AND ARE INNOCENT.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:18 PM   #11
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I have no ****ing clue. I would have done it in broad daylight.

I would have reported openly to the world that the United States is transferring innocent men from a legal limboesque prison to the free world. Bermuda, anywhere.

They deserve it.
Yea well Barry didn't go about it that way, did he? He pissed off a lot of people. I know, you don't give a shit cause it was Obama. If Bush had done this you would be ripping him left and right.
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:18 PM   #12
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you are such a suck up. Obama can do no wrong in your eyes at all can he? If this was such non-deal why was it done in secret?
It was handled in secret so the Chinese wouldn't put pressure on the UK to stop it.

China has insisted the Uighurs be returned to China for imprisonment.
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It's also a firestorm because people are emotional rather than logical about it.

THESE MEN WERE AND ARE INNOCENT.
Then why did he not release them in our country?
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Old 06-15-2009, 02:19 PM   #14
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Then why did he not release them in our country?
Because he'd get slaughtered politically.

Because people are emotional about it rather than logical.
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It was handled in secret so the Chinese wouldn't put pressure on the UK to stop it.

China has insisted the Uighurs be returned to China for imprisonment.
And this makes it better somehow?

So you tell them no. Which is essentially what we did.
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