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Old 06-20-2009, 12:06 PM  
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LOOKS LIKE IRAN IS CHOOSING TO TIANANMEN OPTION

Watching a lot of videos of Basijis opening fire and rounding people up in the cover of darkness.

Got a bad feeling a lot of Iranians are going to disappear tonight...
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:21 PM   #91
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Frankie, my husband isn't concerned so much for his parents, as they will stay safe in their home outside of Tehran, but for his sisters. One of whom teaches at the University in Tehran and she has a son who is 16. His other sister's husband is young enough to be forced into service if this ends up being a civil war. I believe she also works part time at a university but not sure where. He's very worried for his nephews and young cousins.

What about your family?
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Cousins in Tehran. Cousins and uncle and aunt in Isfahan. Vast distant family in many cities. My immediate family are all here. My mom was visiting Tehran until 2 days before the Election. She is now in Paris with her brother. She is in her mid 80s and 4'-11". I got a laugh out of her over the phone a couple of days ago when I accused her of going there and starting a "revolution."
Sorry Dennise. I don't know how but I missed your post. The answer is in my previous post (quoted here). Give my deepest regards to your husband. I share his worries, not only for our families, but for the rest of the people there. Needless to say, I'm sure he shares that sentiment.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:31 PM   #92
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Natural gas lines of Basij HQ was set on fire after Basijie's locked themselves inside .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGyZo2jOOYY
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:32 PM   #93
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:35 PM   #94
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Natural gas lines of Basij HQ was set on fire after Basijie's locked themselves inside .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGyZo2jOOYY
So much for peaceful, but then I've always wondered at what point does violence become your primary means.
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:26 AM   #95
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Only if the US could bomb just the leaders. But how?
I get a sense that the protesters aren't in any of the government buildings or anywhere near the places that the clerics and government leaders call home.
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:27 AM   #96
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Cousins in Tehran. Cousins and uncle and aunt in Isfahan. Vast distant family in many cities. My immediate family are all here. My mom was visiting Tehran until 2 days before the Election. She is now in Paris with her brother. She is in her mid 80s and 4'-11". I got a laugh out of her over the phone a couple of days ago when I accused her of going there and starting a "revolution."
That's great...

Glad she's safe...hope your other relatives pull through this...
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:49 AM   #97
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TV feeds / video
Link (new window); BBC Persian livestream in Farsi, with frequent videos and stills of the protests & related
Link (new window); BBC World News livestream in English, occasional recaps, actual interviews
Link (new window); BBC News livestream in English, occasional recaps [apparently may redirect to NSFW sites w/o Adblock on]
Link (new window); Press TV -- Live Iranian Int'l news station in English
Link (new window); Al-Jazeera English -- Live Iranian Int'l news station in English [requires Realplayer; mirror (new window) doesn't]
Link (new window); youtube channel with footage from citizen journalists in Iran

Text w/ media links
Link (new window); the all-in-one Tweetgrid
Link (new window); Guardian UK news blog, frequently updated with media and interviews
Link (new window); NY Times news blog, frequently updated with media and interviews from others
Link (new window); Inside of Iran -- a selective aggregate of articles on the situation, both blogger and 'official' mass media
Link (new window); Tehran Bureau: "...a virtual [...] independent news organization." boston.com article (new window) about the lady running it
Link (new window); Juan Cole's blog, collecting a bit of everything, analysis but many sources as well - hosts translation of Khamenei's second speech at Friday noon prayers
Link (new window); Nico Pitney's blogpost "Live-blogging the Uprising", frequently updated events and media

Photo-heavy
Link (new window); TehranLive.org -- photos & occasional video of peaceful protests, rioting and crackdown
Link (new window); Picasaweb album -- photos of peaceful protests
Link (new window); flickrstream of protests, many crowd shots
Link (new window); Iran after the Election -- "blog to act as repository for all media." offers zips of photos hosted

Basic info
Link (new window); current local time in Tehran
Link (new window); initial map of protests in Iran -- if I understood correctly, BBC Persia had additional sites
Link (new window); information graphic of Iran's political system
Link (new window); write-up of the current situation and relevant history, frequently updated; torrentlist of protest videos

Motivators
Link (new window); Poem for the Rooftops [video]
Link (new window); "political" "cartoon"

Link (pops); video of a young woman dying after being shot in the throat. mirror at 2:37pm update (pops) [nsfw] the same young woman, already dead. (new window) [nsfw] stills (new window)

"In the video I saw, you see her body hitch just before the blood comes out of her mouth. I'm haunted by that very image - along with her eyes staring into the camera as life leaves her body...
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Link (new window); 'This forum aims to be a secure and reliable way of communication for Iranians and friends. [...] backed by thepiratebay.org, Anonymous, and numerous other internet-friendly forces."

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Link (new window); updating blogpost of suspected cointel/spamming Twitter accounts
Link (new window); list of foreign embassies in Iran accepting wounded [if true, advise caution - likely to be interference as they are known locations]
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someone please host this info concisely somewhere: ""Tear gas" comes in many different forms, but a solution of 5% baking soda/sodium bicarbonate (جوش شیرین ) to 95% water is cheap and effective, neutralizing many of them. If at all possible, the solution should be cold -- warm water will open pores in the skin, causing the chemicals to be absorbed more quickly. Keep a spray bottle with you if you can. In a pinch, breathing a chopped or crushed onion in a paper bag can cause the eyes to water and flush some of the CS out. CS is fat soluble, so do not treat tear gas or CS attacks with Vaseline, oils or any oily creams/lotions, since this will only spread the irritant and allow it to stick to the skin. Cold water, air and time are the only effective antidotes. Get the victim to a cold shower or a garden hose as quickly as you can. Asthmatics should warn their colleagues about their condition ahead of time, so that they are prepared to remove you from the area if necessary."

Comment & Analysis
Link (new window); (Daily Dish) Andrew Sullivan's blog entry "Live-Tweeting the Revolution" -- selective(?) aggregate of tweets, photos of peace and violence
Link (new window); Ryan Mauro's blog, with perspective prior to the elections, quality-looking article
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:12 AM   #98
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Was in a discussion with some Iranians at the local coffee shop here in Los Angeles and they said about the same thing you say above. I asked if that would turn them against us and pro-government. He said it would have the opposite effect, in his opinion. He said that the thugs that are beating people on the street feel as if they have to answer to no one and if their leaders were bombed it would embolden the people in a way that the Iranian government couldn't stop.

Of course he also said he expects Israel to bomb Iran in the next 24 hours while there is an ongoing resistence on the ground so who knows?
Israel has wanted to invade for the last couple years, we have stopped them (yes Dubya stopped them), they will not go without our approval, if they do, then that's a huge statement against Obama.

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Only if the US could bomb just the leaders. But how?
We have had covert special ops operations in Iran for nearly 4-5 years, if not before. We have special interests in Iran, don't let anyone or Memememe tell you otherwise. The US is very interested in seeing Iran become a more democratic nation. The "rumors" that we would never go there are false, even with Obama, the future of American envolvement in foriegn countries have not ended in Afghanistan nor Iraq. I hope to be wrong, but signs are leading up to it. I pray the people there can bring about a positive change before hand. Iranian military forces will give us more opposition than Iraq.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:12 AM   #99
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Admiral, love the updates, BTW....
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:17 AM   #100
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Admiral, love the updates, BTW....

Thanks, but all of the credit goes to the good people at Fark.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:24 AM   #101
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Larigani and Golpaygani are moving away Khamenei; Velayati, Natec Nouri and others with Rafsanjani. #iranelection

Ayat Golpayagani, close advisser to Khamenei, believes Ahmadinejad support will shake foundation of Islamic Republic. #iranelection

Ayat Golpaygani, one closest man to Khamenei, said to be furious that he has backed Ahmadinejad in this way #iranelection
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:10 AM   #102
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TV feeds / video
Link (new window); BBC Persian livestream in Farsi, with frequent videos and stills of the protests & related
Link (new window); BBC World News livestream in English, occasional recaps, actual interviews
Link (new window); BBC News livestream in English, occasional recaps [apparently may redirect to NSFW sites w/o Adblock on]
Link (new window); Press TV -- Live Iranian Int'l news station in English
Link (new window); Al-Jazeera English -- Live Iranian Int'l news station in English [requires Realplayer; mirror (new window) doesn't]
Link (new window); youtube channel with footage from citizen journalists in Iran

Text w/ media links
Link (new window); the all-in-one Tweetgrid
Link (new window); Guardian UK news blog, frequently updated with media and interviews
Link (new window); NY Times news blog, frequently updated with media and interviews from others
Link (new window); Inside of Iran -- a selective aggregate of articles on the situation, both blogger and 'official' mass media
Link (new window); Tehran Bureau: "...a virtual [...] independent news organization." boston.com article (new window) about the lady running it
Link (new window); Juan Cole's blog, collecting a bit of everything, analysis but many sources as well - hosts translation of Khamenei's second speech at Friday noon prayers
Link (new window); Nico Pitney's blogpost "Live-blogging the Uprising", frequently updated events and media

Photo-heavy
Link (new window); TehranLive.org -- photos & occasional video of peaceful protests, rioting and crackdown
Link (new window); Picasaweb album -- photos of peaceful protests
Link (new window); flickrstream of protests, many crowd shots
Link (new window); Iran after the Election -- "blog to act as repository for all media." offers zips of photos hosted

Basic info
Link (new window); current local time in Tehran
Link (new window); initial map of protests in Iran -- if I understood correctly, BBC Persia had additional sites
Link (new window); information graphic of Iran's political system
Link (new window); write-up of the current situation and relevant history, frequently updated; torrentlist of protest videos

Motivators
Link (new window); Poem for the Rooftops [video]
Link (new window); "political" "cartoon"

Link (pops); video of a young woman dying after being shot in the throat. mirror at 2:37pm update (pops) [nsfw] the same young woman, already dead. (new window) [nsfw] stills (new window)

"In the video I saw, you see her body hitch just before the blood comes out of her mouth. I'm haunted by that very image - along with her eyes staring into the camera as life leaves her body...
---
Good. Remember that. But also remember what else was there. What you saw was a tragedy, but it was beauty. At that spot, a dozen strangers came to her. They united around her. They made sure that not only did she not die in vain, but she did not die alone. It was at that moment that she left, they came together. Remember that too. That'll keep you sane. It worked for me."

Action
Link (new window); torrentlist of videos
[http://blog.austinheap.com/2009/06/1...ran-citizens-f o r-windows/] Instructions for setting up a Windows Proxy
[http://blog.austinheap.com/2009/06/15/how-to-setup-a-proxy-for-iran-citizens] Instructions for setting up a Linux Proxy
Link (new window); 'This forum aims to be a secure and reliable way of communication for Iranians and friends. [...] backed by thepiratebay.org, Anonymous, and numerous other internet-friendly forces."

Important info
Link (new window); updating blogpost of suspected cointel/spamming Twitter accounts
Link (new window); list of foreign embassies in Iran accepting wounded [if true, advise caution - likely to be interference as they are known locations]
Link (new window); how to treat chemical warfare agents
someone please host this info concisely somewhere: ""Tear gas" comes in many different forms, but a solution of 5% baking soda/sodium bicarbonate (جوش شیرین ) to 95% water is cheap and effective, neutralizing many of them. If at all possible, the solution should be cold -- warm water will open pores in the skin, causing the chemicals to be absorbed more quickly. Keep a spray bottle with you if you can. In a pinch, breathing a chopped or crushed onion in a paper bag can cause the eyes to water and flush some of the CS out. CS is fat soluble, so do not treat tear gas or CS attacks with Vaseline, oils or any oily creams/lotions, since this will only spread the irritant and allow it to stick to the skin. Cold water, air and time are the only effective antidotes. Get the victim to a cold shower or a garden hose as quickly as you can. Asthmatics should warn their colleagues about their condition ahead of time, so that they are prepared to remove you from the area if necessary."

Comment & Analysis
Link (new window); (Daily Dish) Andrew Sullivan's blog entry "Live-Tweeting the Revolution" -- selective(?) aggregate of tweets, photos of peace and violence
Link (new window); Ryan Mauro's blog, with perspective prior to the elections, quality-looking article
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:08 AM   #104
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this shit has gone on long enough we should bomb turn it into a parking lot
No reason to turn into parking lot when a good portion of the populace doesn't want the current group of clerical thugs there either.
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:04 AM   #105
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I believe the prefered slur of choice was "nuke the place into a sheet of glass".
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