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Old 06-20-2009, 12:06 PM  
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LOOKS LIKE IRAN IS CHOOSING TO TIANANMEN OPTION

Watching a lot of videos of Basijis opening fire and rounding people up in the cover of darkness.

Got a bad feeling a lot of Iranians are going to disappear tonight...
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:36 PM   #106
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:40 PM   #107
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:42 PM   #108
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"Several embassies in Tehran opened up their doors to injured protesters. They include the embassies of Slovenia, Dutch, Italian, British, Australian, Romania, Czech Republic, Denmark and Germany. There are rumors of other embassies opening their doors to injured protesters as well; however, they cannot be positively confirmed. It has also been confirmed that the Canadian Embassy has closed its doors and turned away injured protesters and told them they are not accepting anyone. (Edit: However, now - 4 hours after the writing of this brief - some secondary sources claim Canada is accepting them and have put on a request for more doctors to come and join them in helping injured protesters.)"

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Old 06-21-2009, 02:45 PM   #109
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:51 PM   #110
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:58 PM   #111
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:05 PM   #112
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At what point do countries supportive of the "rebellion" begin to covertly arm the protestors? Perhaps I've watched too many movies, but this seems like interesting option to help level the playing field.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:14 PM   #113
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At what point do countries supportive of the "rebellion" begin to covertly arm the protestors? Perhaps I've watched too many movies, but this seems like interesting option to help level the playing field.

We really need to stay out of it. As much as I would like for us to arm every single protester against those thugs, it would be detrimental to the cause. The last thing this movement needs is to be labeled as a "U.S. Imperialist and Israeli Zionist Coup." The momentum is on their side, no need to frak it up.

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Old 06-21-2009, 06:12 PM   #114
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The most recent news will be posted at the top, and then moved to the timeline as events on the ground happen.

From the 19th to the 20th of June. post-Khamenei speech.

If anyone doubted this is a Revolution and that this was bigger than the election, there is no such doubt anymore. While Khameini directly called for them to stop, the population took the street more numerous than ever. This is direct defiance to the Supreme Leader. Here are the major events that happened between the end of Khamenei's speech and midnight on Saturday.

- Before the protest even began, heavily armed men were waiting for the dissidents, planning to prevent them from reaching the rally point. It didn't take long for the peaceful protests to turn into full-fledged riots. Security forces had also closed off the Tehran university to prevent students from leaving to protest or entering to take shelter. Basij, some security forces and what is suspected to be members of the Revolutionary Guard assaulted the protesters. The protesters fought back while chanting "Death to Khamenei" and "Down with Khamenei". The security forces used water cannons and tear gas to try and disperse the protesters. While the tear gas was partly successful, the water cannons were mostly useless, as they were quickly over ran by the protesters.

- A lot of eyewitnesses report that the Basij now fighting appear to be barely older than teenagers, most of them between 16 and 20, taking a real pleasure in the violence. Others report that up to hundreds of both security forces and Basij were injured in the last series of clashes. The Basij forces are using pvc tubes filled with concretes, bats, even knives and are assaulting people everywhere, down to metro stations.

- A bomb exploded at the Khomeini Shrine, killing one and injuring at least two. Most believe that the government is in fact behind it. Khamenei was a major figure of the previous Revolution, and they used a similar tactics then, destroying buildings and blaming it on the Shah in order to turn the population against him. The State television is of course blaming Mousavi for it and calling for a harsher treatment of the protesters. This is also very convenient for the Regime, has Mousavi said he would take refuge there if he feared for his safety, but now all access is blocked.

- In return, the harsher the treatment of protesters by the security forces, the harsher the rhetoric and reaction of the protesters. They are calling for the death of the regime, the death of Khomeini, the death of their oppressors and that they will avenge them. Once the gun shots started, the protesters went wild, beating down security forces and basij forces they caught to a pulp, while the Basij and security forces are showing absolutely no restraint, even less than they previously had.

- There are many reports that the security forces and Basij still ever present in hospitals and clinics. Basij are kidnapping some of those injured, while the security forces is identifying those participating in the protest. In order to arrest protesters, security forces raided the Khomeini Hospital in order to arrest injured protesters. There are rumours that Basij forces have hijacked ambulances and use them as a trap to brutally assault already injured protesters seeking help, or shoot at them. Iranian journalists, Reformist intellectuals and feminists are still being arrested and rounded up to prevent from reporting the news or reaching out.

- As the protests grew, extreme measures started to used by those trying to repress the Iranians asking for freedom. Gun shots were first fired in the air, but it did not take long for them to be fired at the protesters. A liquid was dropped from helicopters, creating severe skin burns on protesters. We are unsure what the liquid was. They are also openly opening fire on the crows, 40 to 60 people at least were killed in a single day, and scores more injured according to protesters. There are also reports that Revolutionary Guard Helicopters dropped firearms crates to 500 Basij fighters, as they are more willing than government forces to use them on civilians.

- The protesters are fighting back, taking over anti-riot trucks and burning them, attacking Basij bases and burning another one to the ground. There are report that a security forces truck was actually blown up by the protesters. In many instances, government forces have been force to fled under the constant assault of the people. Another report mentioned a security forces post was burning as well.

- The Iran Fatemiyeh Hospital in Tehran has confirmed at least 40 dead as well as 200 injured. Other sources report that hundreds of security forces and hundreds of basij fighters were injured as well.

- At night the protesters joined each others on the roofs in Tehran, shouting "Allah-u Ackbar", "Margh Bar Khamenei" and chanting "I will welcome death, I will welcome death, but no subjugation, but no subjugation". None of the rhetoric is addressed to Ahmadinejad anymore, all of it is directed to Khamenei and the regime. Many of the popular chants throughout the day were "I will kill those who killed my brother/sister", "Death to the Government", "Death to Khomeini" and "Seyed Ali Pinoshe, Iran won't be Chile".

- China has been censoring all news coming from Iran. Obama's restraint has been useless, as the Iranian government has shown a video of him with a false translation where Obama declared his support for the protesters, and that they should keep on protesting.

- Mousavi gave a speech and declared that if he is arrested, then the whole nation should strike. He also told the people that he is ready for martyrdom.

- There are unconfirmed reports that the Army is now refusing to follow orders and will not attack the protesters. The newest strategy from the government seems to be arming the Basij, dressing them in riot gear, team them up with IRG soldiers, and try to prevent massive rallies and keep them localized instead, as they are easier to stop spreading.
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:22 PM   #115
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Coverage of Iran from other places.

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Old 06-21-2009, 06:33 PM   #116
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No big surprise the Russian paper is saying we're directly involved.
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:35 PM   #117
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:19 PM   #118
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:23 PM   #119
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We really need to stay out of it. As much as I would like for us to arm every single protester against those thugs, it would be detrimental to the cause. The last thing this movement needs is to be labeled as a "U.S. Imperialist and Israeli Zionist Coup." The momentum is on their side, no need to frak it up.
I'm not so sure we are out of it. Particularly with that green motif....like the orange in the Ukraine. That smacks of some CIA interference. We've been in there since 2003 and millions more were funded in 2007 by our D congress to destabilize the place. That's not to say there is no Reform Movement just that we're in there...and also working with them.
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:27 PM   #120
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Neda BEFORE being murdered:

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The older guy in striped blue shirt is her father. Most likely there to protest AND protect his daughter. (He is also very visible in the video of her death kneeling over her and screaming as she passes on.) Neda is just to the left of him in this video.
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