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Old 08-01-2009, 09:38 AM  
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***Official Knowmo2724 homer-2000 thread***

Very few non-bronco fans can tolerate him. he creates inane threads that are homeristic in nature (his avatar is very apropos), and nobody loves him (not even his own mother)

'face, this can be the home for all knowmo threads so we aren't treated to the bi-weekly steaming 'presents' left by the front door.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:11 PM   #3856
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Bowener hit on it. It's not like Sorgi and Painter had zero skills coming into the league. They were still in the same meeting rooms and had the benefit of the same coaches and knowledge as Manning. In the end, yes, they never were meant to play in the league, but it's ridiculous to say that Manning didn't give a flying **** about them, yet all of a sudden he's going to be Obi-wan to ****ing Osweiler? Please.

Take a cue from great QBs Joe Montana, Trent Green, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, and numerous others. Starting QBs don't ****ing care about their backups. They might like them as people and hang out with them after practices. They might even be lifelong friends. But it's not their ****ing jobs to coach them along. They aren't coaches, they're PLAYERS. First and foremost. I imagine Manning has enough on his goddamn plate trying to build this offense as quickly as possible. He doesn't have time to babysit Assweiler.
Forgive me if I don't take advice about how to develop franchise QBs from a Chiefs fan.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:15 PM   #3857
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Forgive me if I don't take advice about how to develop franchise QBs from a Chiefs fan.
Who's giving advise? He's stating the fact that starting QBs don't "mentor" their backups.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:19 PM   #3858
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He doesn't have to coach him, Brock just needs to watch how Manning goes about his business. Brock is still young and impressionable and he certainly isn't a guy who thinks he has it all figured out. He will learn a shitload about how to play the position just by spending 4-5 hours a day with Manning
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:23 PM   #3859
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Who's giving advise? He's stating the fact that starting QBs don't "mentor" their backups.
It is a fact that some starters mentor and some don't. It is opinion as to which Manning will be in Denver.
It is false to say that if Manning doesn't actively mentor that a backup QB cannot greatly benefit from practicing and playing under Manning.
Steve Young learned a lot from a QB that didn't mentor him, for example.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:28 PM   #3860
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Forgive me if I don't take advice about how to develop franchise QBs from a Chiefs fan.
It's not advice. It's science. I'm telling you how the world works right now.
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It is a fact that some starters mentor and some don't. It is opinion as to which Manning will be in Denver.
What starters have mentored?
QBs that have successfully taken over for HOF QBs had the skill, if they learned anything from the starter it's up to them. The starter isn't worried about the backup getting ready for their future.
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It's not advice. It's science. I'm telling you how the world works right now.
You're telling us how you hope with every bone in your body that it will work in Denver.
Don't blame you, I'd be worried too.
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He doesn't have to coach him, Brock just needs to watch how Manning goes about his business. Brock is still young and impressionable and he certainly isn't a guy who thinks he has it all figured out. He will learn a shitload about how to play the position just by spending 4-5 hours a day with Manning
And now we come back to Jim Sorgi and Curtis Painter.

Which one is it, Knowmo? You can't have both.
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You're telling us how you hope with every bone in your body that it will work in Denver.
Don't blame you, I'd be worried too.
Do you think Osweiler is going to be your starter after Manning? I hope he is.
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You're telling us how you hope with every bone in your body that it will work in Denver.
Don't blame you, I'd be worried too.
Hey, Peyton can coach and mentor the kid if he wants to. I'm not stopping him.

He will be going against 99% of the conventional franchise QB philosophy regarding young backups who are supposedly supposed to take the guy's place one day.

It could happen. Sure.

Will it?

Very doubtful.
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Hey, Peyton can coach and mentor the kid if he wants to. I'm not stopping him.

He will be going against 99% of the conventional franchise QB philosophy regarding young backups who are supposedly supposed to take the guy's place one day.

It could happen. Sure.

Will it?

Very doubtful.
IMHO Peyton will tell Osweiller to go **** himself but who knows, he may mellow as he gets older.
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Manning is a different breed though, he actually does enjoy coaching. He is very involved at the Manning Passing Academy. And just the other day he took Weber, Brock, and Hanie to a side field to teach them some of the things he does at the line.
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Manning is a different breed though, he actually does enjoy coaching. He is very involved at the Manning Passing Academy. And just the other day he took Weber, Brock, and Hanie to a side field to teach them some of the things he does at the line.
How come it's never rubbed off before?
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10TH GRADE SCIENCE TEACHER: Vail, you ****ing idiot. Don't put those two chemicals together. The reaction will create a small explosion and break the beaker, releasing H2SO4 all over the place.

YOUNG VAILPASS: You're just telling us how you hope with every bone in your body what will happen. But you don't know!!!
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10TH GRADE SCIENCE TEACHER: Vail, you ****ing idiot. Don't put those two chemicals together. The reaction will create a small explosion and break the beaker, releasing H2SO4 all over the place.

YOUNG VAILPASS: You're just telling us how you hope with every bone in your body what will happen. But you don't know!!!
Because your opinion is the same as the laws of chemistry.
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