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Old 09-19-2009, 12:19 PM  
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Maher's disdain

As usual, Maher couches at least one thing on his show in terms that burn me up.

This time it was how it's such a travesty that we, alone!!!, 'make money off sick people.'

No, ****stick, we EARN money HELPING sick people.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:27 PM   #2
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He is the same kind of pompous ass that would want us to have universal health care, but would pay for something more on the side because he considers himself better than everyone else. Sort of like members of congress...
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:59 PM   #3
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He goes too far on a lot of issues...that said health care costs in this country are increasing at 4X that of wages. We spend a much greater percentage of our GNDP on health care than other nations yet coverage is more limited. We have a great health care delivery system however 1 in 5 procedures ordered by our highly qualified physicians is denied by insurance companies. In that regard his view has some validity.
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Old 09-19-2009, 03:58 PM   #4
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:00 PM   #5
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He made a good point an last night's show. A large percentage of those tea baggers crying about health care reform are morbidly obese, smoke, eat like shit and many probably have Type II Diabetes. So many refuse to do something about their own health which is large reason why costs are so high, but at the same time, cry their ****in eyes about health care reform.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:16 PM   #6
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He made a good point an last night's show. A large percentage of those tea baggers crying about health care reform are morbidly obese, smoke, eat like shit and many probably have Type II Diabetes. So many refuse to do something about their own health which is large reason why costs are so high, but at the same time, cry their ****in eyes about health care reform.
excellent point, because most of the people who are for the reform are not obese, eat healthy and all are exempt from aquiring diabetes, they all engage in preventive measures and are free from any blame of high costs, yet at the same time they cry about health care reform. they sure are empathetic...

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Old 09-19-2009, 04:59 PM   #7
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As usual, Maher couches at least one thing on his show in terms that burn me up.

This time it was how it's such a travesty that we, alone!!!, 'make money off sick people.'

No, ****stick, we EARN money HELPING sick people.
The health care industry has evolved into a profit first, health care second industry just like everything else that has been affected by the corporate establishment or the hand of Wall Street.

The health care industry is not interested in "earning" it's keep. It's goal is to maximize profit. Just like every other Wall Street or corporate endeavor, maximizing profit generally means cutting cost and increasing price in order to yield the most profit.

I don't believe that the profit motive is the mother of invention. I don't believe ingenuity is defined by maximizing profit. The profit motive is amoral and the goal of maximizing profit above all else is defined by greed. IMO, the definition of ingenuity would be the implementation of a superior idea in a way that is most useful to the greatest number of people.

Ingenuity would not approve of limiting access to an essential service for the sake of maximizing profit. Nor would it approve of gouging people or exploiting sickness as a means of advancing wealth.

Benjamin Franklin, who is probably the most ingenious American in history, gave all of his inventions away freely for the benefit of society and humankind. He (more than anyone, IMO) defines American values, including the American work ethic.

JMO.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:59 PM   #8
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excellent point, because most of the people who are for the reform are not obese, eat healthy and all are exempt from aquiring diabetes, they all engage in preventive measures and are free from any blame of high costs, yet at the same time they cry about health care reform. they sure are empathetic...

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Old 09-19-2009, 05:04 PM   #9
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excellent point, because most of the people who are for the reform are not obese, eat healthy and all are exempt from aquiring diabetes, they all engage in preventive measures and are free from any blame of high costs, yet at the same time they cry about health care reform. they sure are empathetic...


Well, I'm not obese, that part is right.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:34 PM   #10
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He goes too far on a lot of issues...that said health care costs in this country are increasing at 4X that of wages. We spend a much greater percentage of our GNDP on health care than other nations yet coverage is more limited. We have a great health care delivery system however 1 in 5 procedures ordered by our highly qualified physicians is denied by insurance companies. In that regard his view has some validity.
What is funny is most people agree that health care reform is needed, just most think the gov't option is a bad idea, because we know how the gov't runs things.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:36 PM   #11
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Mahr is an ass....Just a comedian that has a political following...kinda like beck
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:37 PM   #12
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excellent point, because most of the people who are for the reform are not obese, eat healthy and all are exempt from aquiring diabetes, they all engage in preventive measures and are free from any blame of high costs, yet at the same time they cry about health care reform. they sure are empathetic...

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Old 09-19-2009, 07:09 PM   #13
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What is funny is most people agree that health care reform is needed, just most think the gov't option is a bad idea, because we know how the gov't runs things.
Based on commentary on other threads you may be considered a racist by disagreeing with the current status of the reform bill.

Based on news reports the current bill was written behind closed doors by an all democrat committee. The lockout of the conservatives should throw up a red flag for anyone that reads the bill (1017 pages).

For the record I don't think you are any more racist than any of the other members here, but the term seems to have been thrown around quite a lot of late.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:24 PM   #14
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As usual, Maher couches at least one thing on his show in terms that burn me up.

This time it was how it's such a travesty that we, alone!!!, 'make money off sick people.'

No, ****stick, we EARN money HELPING sick people.
BL...

...an ambulance-chaser?

NFW....seriously, I'd never have guessed.....
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:32 PM   #15
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excellent point, because most of the people who are for the reform are not obese, eat healthy and all are exempt from aquiring diabetes, they all engage in preventive measures and are free from any blame of high costs, yet at the same time they cry about health care reform. they sure are empathetic...

Actually, a lot of them are fat f@ck-sticks like Michael Moore, Algore and Kotter....
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