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Old 09-22-2009, 08:08 AM  
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Glenn Beck: Obama better for Country than McCain

Wow this is kind of a shock.




Glenn Beck thinks President Obama is better for the country than John McCain would have been, he said in an interview with Katie Couric to air at CBSNews.com Tuesday evening.

"I think John McCain would have been worse for the country than Barack Obama," Beck told Couric in the debut episode of her new web show, @katiecouric.

Beck's comment came in response to Couric's question about Hillary Clinton, who Beck said he may have even voted for had she been the Democratic nominee against John McCain.

"I can't believe I'm saying this," Beck said, "I think I would have much preferred [Hillary Clinton] as president and may have voted for her against John McCain."

He described McCain as "this weird progressive like Theodore Roosevelt was."

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Old 09-22-2009, 08:11 AM   #2
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:13 AM   #3
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Actually,it's not shocking at all and he's not giving Lite his seal of approval. He's equating what is good for the Republican party as being good for the country. He thinks Lite is better because he will ultimately be a boon for the Republican party and will benefit them more than McCain ever could.

His view is similar to how I stated McCain would be better for the Democrats and gridlock would be better for the country. His comment is an indictment of Lite not a an endorsement of him.
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Actually,it's not shocking at all and he's not giving Lite his seal of approval. He's equating what is good for the Republican party as being good for the country. He thinks Lite is better because he will ultimately be a boon for the Republican party and will benefit them more than McCain ever could.

His view is similar to how I stated McCain would be better for the Democrats and gridlock would be better for the country. His comment is an indictment of Lite not a an endorsement of him.
Exactly, McCain would have just been a continuation of Bush's destroying the republicant brand.
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:15 AM   #5
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Actually,it's not shocking at all and he's not giving Lite his seal of approval. He's equating what is good for the Republican party as being good for the country. He thinks Lite is better because he will ultimately be a boon for the Republican party.

His view is similar to how I stated McCain would be better for the Democrats and gridlock would be better for the country.
I guess that could be true. Though I find it odd he said McCain was some weird Progressive. So to me that suggest McCain's policies might have been worse than Obama's in his eyes.
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What he is also saying is that Hillary would have been the moderate of the two and worthy of supporting as being better for the country and maybe not so much for the Republican party in the short term.

Similar to how Limbaugh ended up on her bandwagon.
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I guess that could be true. Though I find it odd he said McCain was some weird Progressive. So to me that suggest McCain's policies might have been worse than Obama's in his eyes.
Progressive for a CONSERVATIVE NUTJOB. Not progressive in the liberal sense of the word. McCain stood to move the party further Center and that is not where Beck wants to go. In a calculated move he would decide that Hillary would be preferable to McCain.

Ultimately they ended up with Lite which, was my assertion during the campaign, was what they wanted all along.
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Beck is playing Couric like a 12 pound carp. His ratings will shoot higher post interview.
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I tend to agree. McCain would have just continued the country on its old path, which was a Rep party sliding left and a far left Dem part sliding left but still remaining parallel, with government growing and growing all the way. A slow slide to socialism instead of the breakneck pace the Dem brain trust would have us on still takes us to the same place eventually.

This situation hopefully enables a rebirth of sanity in Washington because what is hopefully one term of a loony Carter-like administration is creating enough backlash to wake up the voters and the Rep party simultaneously.

If Congress changes hands and then the White house in 2012, we'd be better off for having gone through the BO mess, although he'd have known very little about it.
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I tend to agree. McCain would have just continued the country on its old path, which was a Rep party sliding left and a far left Dem part sliding left but still remaining parallel, with government growing and growing all the way.

This situation enables a rebirth of conservatism because what is hopefully one term of a loony Carter-like administration is creating enough backlash to wake up the voters and the Rep party simultaneously.

If Congress changes hands and then the White house in 2012, we'd be better off for having gone through the BO mess, although he'd have known very little about it.
This was my 'tin foil' theory why Sarah Palin was born and why the Republicans gambled this election feeling that Lite would move to far left too fast and the result would be a pendulum swing back in their direction in 4 years. I was ceremoniously ridiculed and scoffed at by the Democrats on the board.

From the looks of it, I think they are on track for two years earlier than I predicted and I'm sure even they are somewhat surprised by that. That means two fewer years of finding a candidate to groom ala the way the Dems did Lite.
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This was my 'tin foil' theory why Sarah Palin was born and why the Republicans gambled this election feeling that Lite would move to far left too fast and the result would be a pendulum swing back in their direction in 4 years.

From the looks of it, I think they are on track for two years earlier than I predicted and I'm sure even they are somewhat surprised by that. That means two less years of finding a candidate to groom ala the way the Dems did Lite.

I was ceremoniously ridiculed and scoffed at by the Democrats on the board.
I wonder what the seats in both houses would fall out like, if every seat were up for election today.
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I tend to agree. McCain would have just continued the country on its old path, which was a Rep party sliding left and a far left Dem part sliding left but still remaining parallel, with government growing and growing all the way.

This situation enables a rebirth of conservatism because what is hopefully one term of a loony Carter-like administration is creating enough backlash to wake up the voters and the Rep party simultaneously.

If Congress changes hands and then the White house in 2012, we'd be better off for having gone through the BO mess, although he'd have known very little about it.
That may all be true but I still find it interesting when he says "better for country." Not better for the Republican party, or conservatives, or gridlock. Maybe he will elaborate on this later because I would interested in what he meant.

When says better for country I take it that he believes McCain's administration and policies would have been worse. Not that he is endorsing Obama but he was the lesser of 2 evils.
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That may all be true but I still find it interesting when he says "better for country." Not better for the Republican party, or conservatives, or gridlock. Maybe he will elaborate on this later because I would interested in what he meant.

When says better for country I take it that he believes McCain's administration and policies would have been worse. Not that he is endorsing Obama but he was the lesser of 2 evils.

Dirk, Beck believes that CONSERVATISM is better for the country. McCain was not a conservative. No way did he want a 'progressive' Republican taking the helm and moving the party further Center. Reading misc. quotes or seeing soundbites is not going to help you understand what he meant. You have to listen to him or watch his show to understand him. Same with Limbaugh.

I can guarantee you without a doubt that Beck is not on any Lite bandwagon and him saying he's preferable to McCain is like saying a heart attack is preferable to cancer.
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I wonder what the seats in both houses would fall out like, if every seat were up for election today.
I wonder if we had a re-election between McCain and B.O. today what the results would be?
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I guess that could be true. Though I find it odd he said McCain was some weird Progressive. So to me that suggest McCain's policies might have been worse than Obama's in his eyes.
Only worse in the sense that when a Republican like McCain, who actually isn't really any different than a democrat, says he stands for conservative values and doesn't act on them, the conservative philosophy takes a beating.

To me the the real damage of Bush's presidency isn't what his policies were (which were bad enough) but the perception by a large bloc of the voting populace that those policies were conservative in nature, which they weren't. That's what drew them in large numbers to Obama, who they thought was change from Bush's failed conservative ideology when in fact Obama is more of the the same on steriods.
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