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Old 09-24-2009, 10:55 AM  
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More info on the Iranian plane crash yesterday.

It is times like these that I have my faith in God renewed. One of the best ways for Iran to defend against an aerial attack from Israel goes down in flames, on top of the burial site of the Islamic republic's most revered leader.
Call it irony, karma, God, or just a dark sense of humor; it is defintely fitting since Imanutjob was preaching about the greatness of Iran while this was happening. Sorry if it is a repost.

Iran loses its only AWACS as Ahmadinejad threatens the world
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6280

September 23, 2009, 12:20 PM (GMT+02:00)



Iran's AWACS destroyed in parade collision

Up above a big military parade in Tehran on Tuesday, Sept. 22, as Iranian president declared Iran's armed forces would "chop off the hands" of any power daring to attack his country, two air force jets collided in mid-air. One was Iran's only airborne warning and control system (AWACS) for coordinating long-distance aerial operations, DEBKAfile's military and Iranian sources disclose.

The proud military parade, which included a march-past, a line of Shehab-3 missiles and an air force fly-past, was planned to give Ahmadinejad a dazzling send-off for New York and add steel to his UN Assembly speech Wednesday.

Dubbed "Simorgh" (a flying creature of Iranian fable which performs wonders in mid-flight), the AWACS' appearance, escorted by fighter jets, was to have been the climax for the Iranian Air force's fly-past over the parade. Instead, it collided with one of escorting planes, a US-made F-5E, and both crashed to the ground in flames. All seven crewmen were killed.

Eye witnesses reported that the flaming planes landed on the mausoleum burial site of the Islamic revolution's founder Ruhollah Khomeini, a national shrine. According to Western observers, no distress signals came from either cockpit indicating that the collision and explosions were sudden and fast.

DEBKAfile's military sources say the disaster was a serious blow to the Iranian Air Force not long after its first and only AWACS went into service in April 2008. It was a renovated version of the Russian Ilyushin 76, part of Saddam Hussein's air force before it was transferred to Iran in 1991 during the first Gulf War.

Tehran hired Russian technicians to carry out renovations and install up-to-date radar. At the launching ceremony of the upgraded AWACS, Air Force commander Brig. Gen. Ahmad Miqani boasted its new radar systems were made in Iran and able to spot any airplane or missile at a distance of 1,000 kilometers from Iran's borders.

The loss of this airborne control system has left Iran's air force and air and missile defenses without "electronic eyes" for surveillance of the skies around its borders.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:05 AM   #2
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Sounds like a good time for Israel to make its move.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:59 AM   #3
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It's a win for the good guys for sure.

I've got a question though. Why was this plane transferred from Iraq to Iran during the first Gulf War?
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:05 PM   #4
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It's a win for the good guys for sure.

I've got a question though. Why was this plane transferred from Iraq to Iran during the first Gulf War?
Because most of the Iraqi air force ran away rather than face us (and die).
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:21 PM   #5
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With all due respect to the families of the pilots that died in this accident and really I do offer them my sympathy.




BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA fell right on the burial site of the dead old bag a douche. Baaaaaaaaahahahahah ha ha he he he that is some beautiful irony.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:29 PM   #6
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Because most of the Iraqi air force ran away rather than face us (and die).
Yup, seems Saddam thought he was more likely to get them back from Iran than us. After the first 48 hours about the only Iraqi jets that flew were hightailing it as fast as their afterburners could take them for Iran and not all of those made it. We still knocked a lot of those down before they could get away.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:34 PM   #7
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Does their AF have anything that's been made within the last 20 years?
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:37 PM   #8
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Does their AF have anything that's been made within the last 20 years?
Not from us. Maybe some Russian Suhkoi’s and Migs though.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:53 PM   #9
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Does their AF have anything that's been made within the last 20 years?
There were reports a few days ago that they've designed and built a new fighter internally. It looks like an F-5 ripoff.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:55 PM   #10
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Does their AF have anything that's been made within the last 20 years?
They certainly won't have anything if they keep crashing them.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:57 PM   #11
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The Israeli's aren't going to have much of an issue flying over, bombing everything and getting home.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:57 PM   #12
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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA fell right on the burial site of the dead old bag a douche. Baaaaaaaaahahahahah ha ha he he he that is some beautiful irony.
seems like pretty darn high odds that the plane would hit Khoemenhi's memorial by accident? Seems like if they were good soldiers and the plane was in trouble they would steer it away? Just happenstance? Where's the conspiracy buff's at when you need them?
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I forgot about the missile that travels at mock 400.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:59 PM   #15
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Ouch.... AWACS is an incredibly important system. To lose 100% of AWACS severely degrades your ability to gain/maintain air superiority.
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