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Old 09-30-2009, 02:29 PM  
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Dem's still at it. Senate Votes Down Proof of Citizenship

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Won't say no to illegals....

Gotta hand it to these guys, they are bent on self destruction and won't be swayed.


(The Hill)- Senate Finance Committee Democrats rejected a proposed a requirement that immigrants prove their identity with photo identification when signing up for federal healthcare programs.

Finance Committee ranking member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that current law and the healthcare bill under consideration are too lax and leave the door open to illegal immigrants defrauding the government using false or stolen identities to obtain benefits.

Grassley's amendment was beaten back 10-13 on a party-line vote.

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Old 09-30-2009, 03:10 PM   #2
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The talking points are not out yet by the DNC and the Huffington Post.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:40 PM   #3
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Like I said before, the plan will cover illegals.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:50 PM   #4
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:00 PM   #5
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This is a pretty craven approach to this issue.
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:14 PM   #6
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This is a pretty craven approach to this issue.
Like we didn't know this was going to happen. When have the Dems not catered to illegals? And it makes Obama look like a big ****ing liar to boot. Or even more so I should say.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:31 PM   #7
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Like we didn't know this was going to happen. When have the Dems not catered to illegals? And it makes Obama look like a big ****ing liar to boot. Or even more so I should say.
Have you ever seen me make excuses for the democrats (or republicans for that matter) on immigration policy?
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:34 PM   #8
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Have you ever seen me make excuses for the democrats (or republicans for that matter) on immigration policy?
I know when I kept saying the bill would cover illegals several of you, not sure if it was you particularly, said I was wrong.
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:38 PM   #9
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I know when I kept saying the bill would cover illegals several of you, not sure if it was you particularly, said I was wrong.
Yeah, you were wrong about the legislation.

The practical enforcement of the legislation is a different argument.

IIRC you shifted the goalposts on that from the legislation authorizing illegals to be treated to "well there's no practical way to verify" and then claimed "see I was right all along!"

Mind you I wasn't taking a position, I was just correcting an error, which you sometimes confuse with stating an opinion.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:12 PM   #10
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Yeah, you were wrong about the legislation.

The practical enforcement of the legislation is a different argument.

IIRC you shifted the goalposts on that from the legislation authorizing illegals to be treated to "well there's no practical way to verify" and then claimed "see I was right all along!"

Mind you I wasn't taking a position, I was just correcting an error, which you sometimes confuse with stating an opinion.
Yea, I was so wrong I am right.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:13 PM   #11
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Like we didn't know this was going to happen. When have the Dems not catered to illegals? And it makes Obama look like a big ****ing liar to boot. Or even more so I should say.
You can't call Obama a liar for saying that this plan won't cover illegals.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:36 PM   #12
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It's quite comical to watch the democrats keep handing republicans the gun just before they put it to their own heads.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:43 PM   #13
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It's quite comical to watch the democrats keep handing republicans the gun just before they put it to their own heads.


That is, sadly, a pretty good analogy.

I can't imagine how such a requirement could be rejected.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:47 PM   #14
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You can't call Obama a liar for saying that this plan won't cover illegals.
That's correct.
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Old 09-30-2009, 06:48 PM   #15
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That's correct.
Because otherwise you're a racist.
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