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Old 10-21-2009, 12:46 PM  
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What makes the Broncos "rise" most disgusting...

...is that they've seemingly fixed a god awful defense (at least thus far) in one offseason. It's taken Kansas City 1..2......4....7....(shit, I can't count that high...) number of offseasons to still field what some might say is slightly better than shit on their best days.

That Denver defense was absolutely putrid last season and now they're "top o' the world". Meanwhile, we've had an inept driver for the past umpteenth numbers of seasons who couldn't get the car out of neutral and when he did....he backed up into the car behind him.

Piss on Carl. Piss on Gunther. Piss on the defense. I got enough piss for everyone involved.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:48 PM   #2
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1st - they had good linebackers and then switched to a LB dominated system. smart

1(a) - We had shitty linebackers and switch to a LB dominated system. ugh

2nd - they have decent overall talent to begin with

3rd - they hire Nolan to run the defense ... Nolan > Pendergast
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:49 PM   #3
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That's what happens when you actually have a DE that can transition to a 3-4 OLB. Hali is playing ehhh right now....but he's no Dumervil. Plus they hired a defensive coordinator who knew what the **** he was doing.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:50 PM   #4
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...is that they've seemingly fixed a god awful defense (at least thus far) in one offseason. It's taken Kansas City 1..2......4....7....(shit, I can't count that high...) number of offseasons to still field what some might say is slightly better than shit on their best days.

That Denver defense was absolutely putrid last season and now they're "top o' the world". Meanwhile, we've had an inept driver for the past umpteenth numbers of seasons who couldn't get the car out of neutral and when he did....he backed up into the car behind him.

Piss on Carl. Piss on Gunther. Piss on the defense. I got enough piss for everyone involved.
The bright side is that they fixed it in one offseason, so it's not impossible for us to do the same thing next offseason. I think one thing that hurt us was that our preferred DC (Crennel) did not take the job and pickings were slim. Denver got an excellent defensive mind in Nolan, and it shows.

I'm not at all sold on Pendergast. If our defense doesn't significantly rise as the season goes on, I really hope we get someone else to run the D in the offseason. I'd be on the Wade Phillips bandwagon, as he was the guy who went to San Diego and helped turn that D around overnight earlier this decade, and they basically did it at that time too by signing cheap free agents and getting other guys to play up to their abilities...
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:02 PM   #5
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...is that they've seemingly fixed a god awful defense (at least thus far) in one offseason. It's taken Kansas City 1..2......4....7....(shit, I can't count that high...) number of offseasons to still field what some might say is slightly better than shit on their best days.

That Denver defense was absolutely putrid last season and now they're "top o' the world". Meanwhile, we've had an inept driver for the past umpteenth numbers of seasons who couldn't get the car out of neutral and when he did....he backed up into the car behind him.

Piss on Carl. Piss on Gunther. Piss on the defense. I got enough piss for everyone involved.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:05 PM   #6
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They had about twice as much talent on defense
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:07 PM   #7
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not even a fair comparison, they have way more talent then us at every position they werent a 2 win team last year
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:08 PM   #8
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Like who DJ Williams?!?!? Piss on him, hes ****in garbage.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:09 PM   #9
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Apparently they can make vonnie holliday decent
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:10 PM   #10
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Everyone but the Chiefs were able to make Holliday decent.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:12 PM   #11
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The have very good leadership with Bailey and Dawkins. I think Dawkins has made a huge impact for them.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:16 PM   #12
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I also have a feeling that our new staff had no faith at all that Herm could coach up his players, so they felt they needed to really look and see what they had in person.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:25 PM   #13
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I think what makes it disgusting is that they essentially did many of the same things we did last offseason, it just appears they did them better-at least in the short term.

They are using the same "right 53 players" we are, only they have gotten results. Trade their Franchise QB, alienate their best playmaker (Marshall), and sign a bunch of over-the-hill vets. Difference is their over-the-hill vets are actually contributing while ours are sucking.
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:25 PM   #14
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8 of the 11 starters on defense in 2009... were not starters on defense with Denver in 2008.
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