Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-22-2009, 11:05 PM  
BWillie BWillie is offline
Future Royals HOF
 
BWillie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Harpooning Whales
Casino cash: $22205
How is John Wall going to beat out Sherron Collins for POY if he can't even play?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4586311

SEC commissioner Mike Slive confirmed to ESPN.com that there are eligibility issues regarding both Kentucky top recruit John Wall and Mississippi State's top freshman Renardo Sidney.

Sidney's eligibility has been discussed for months. Mississippi State compliance director Bracky Brett told ESPN.com recently that Sidney wasn't eligible to compete yet but was eligible to practice as the school and Sidney's attorney work through amateurism issues.

But this is the first time it has been publicly acknowledged that there could be a question about Wall's eligibility.

A source also told ESPN.com that Kentucky has been investigating Wall's eligibility for months because his former AAU coach was a certified agent.

According to NCAA protocol, any case involving pre-enrollment amateurism issues would be investigated by the NCAA Eligibility Center. Wall and Sidney are eligible to practice but not compete until their amateur issues are resolved. If a player has an academic eligibility issue, he is not allowed to practice or compete.

"Those are amateur issues that arose prior to their coming to our schools," Slive said of Sidney and Wall. "Those are strictly amateurism issues. As we told our people, somebody needs to determine if they are eligible. It's not relative to you, it's relative to them."

Slive also said that he believes Wall and Sidney are the only SEC freshmen with unresolved eligibility issues.

"This is a very different thing than what I've been talking about for eight years," Slive said, referring to the SEC's outlaw image in terms of rule-breaking. "The culture is different now."

Brian Clifton, Wall's AAU coach, was a certified agent with FIBA, basketball's international governing body, for nearly a year. Under NCAA rule that equates to Wall accepting illegal benefits from an agent. Consequently Wall could have to repay any and all expenses Clifton footed during that period before he can play with Kentucky.

NCAA rule also stipulates that an athlete can be withheld from at least 10 percent of a team's games as part of the punishment.

A source told ESPN.com that the Kentucky compliance department had been working feverishly to clarify Wall's eligibility in recent weeks and had been going back to 2007 to see exactly how much money is owed. Wall made two unofficial visits to Kentucky that fall while Billy Gillispie was head coach -- in September he attended a UK-Louisville football game and in October he returned for the Wildcats' Big Blue Madness opening-night practice.

"My understanding is that all 13 players on our roster are eligible at this point," said UK media relations director DeWayne Peevey.

Peevey said that school privacy policies prevent Kentucky from discussing the eligibility of players. When asked whether Wall might be excluded from any games, Peevey said that information would be confidential.

"We won't release anything," Peevey said.

Clifton, the president of D-One Sports, previously admitted to being a certified agent but said he forfeited his license in August 2008 so he could devote his full attention to his AAU program.

"Absolutely I was a licensed agent," Clifton told CBSSports.com's Gary Parrish in August 2008. "But what I started and what I had given my life to was this [D-One Sports] program and I was about to watch it fall apart. Obviously I couldn't let that happen. So at that time -- after having not signed any clients -- I figured that program was the most important thing for me. And that was the end of the agent thing."

Under the guidelines set by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, agent violations can fall under two categories:

If an individual accepts significant monetary benefits from an agent, his or her eligibility should not be reinstated.

If an individual accepts benefits from an agent that are not significant enough to warrant permanent ineligibility, the student-athlete will be withheld for the violation and will be required to repay the value of the benefits.

The committee goes on to say that if a student-athlete accepts benefits from an agent greater than $101, the student-athlete will have to repay the money and be subject to a minimum 10 percent withholding condition -- in other words, withheld from 10 percent of a team's regular-season games.

"There can be mitigating circumstances, but the rule of thumb would be they'd have to pay back the money," NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn said, declining comment on Wall's particular case. "And if it was a significant amount they could potentially be withheld from games. The line in the sand is if an agent or whatever they want to call themselves was marketing an individual student-athlete or prospective student-athlete based on their athletic abilities. If so, there are potential issues."

Osburn also cited a rule that stipulates: "To maintain amateur status and NCAA eligibility, a student-athlete or their friends and family cannot have an agreement -- oral or written -- with an agent or accept benefits from an agent until his or her eligibility expires."

During Thursday's SEC media day, Calipari said Wall's basketball skills are ahead of former Memphis stars -- and current NBA players -- Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans -- at this stage.

"John right now is probably farther along today than they were," Calipari said. "Those two when they got it and they felt the offense, they were unleashed and they weren't afraid to make The Play. When we're in a tough game and it's on the road, is he going to make the play that those two did? I have no idea."

With Wall and the other freshman, the Wildcats are picked to win the SEC.

Since arriving at Kentucky after leaving Memphis, Calipari -- the highest paid college basketball coach in the country with a salary nearing $4 million per year salary -- has brought renewed excitement to the Bluegrass state.

Before Thursday's reports questioning Wall's eligibility, Calipari had said that coaches are responsible for what goes on in their programs, but that it's difficult to control those outside of the programs.

He stressed during Kentucky's media day last week that the Wildcats program will be run the right way.

"We will be a program rooted in integrity and run with class," he said.
Posts: 15,488
BWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:13 PM   #2
Reaper16 Reaper16 is offline
Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat
 
Reaper16's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dystopia
Casino cash: $8159
I didn't think that Sherron Collins was a viable candidate for PoY.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delano View Post
Reaper16's taste in beer, music, and literature are unmatched on this message board.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 32,711
Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:17 PM   #3
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $145
With the way the Kentucky football team is playing this year, all the local Sports call in shows talk about these days is the upcoming BB season.

That big gasp of air you could hear today here in Wildcat country was the fanbase worried that John Wall would be declared ineligible. This is the same fanbase that believes itself to be the "uncrowned" NCAA 2010 BB Champion without having played a game.

mmaddog
*******
Posts: 8,613
Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:22 PM   #4
BWillie BWillie is offline
Future Royals HOF
 
BWillie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Harpooning Whales
Casino cash: $22205
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I didn't think that Sherron Collins was a viable candidate for PoY.
Alot of publications and media outlets are predicting him to be, or at least candidate. Personally, I don't think Aldrich or Collins will be able to compile the stats to get POY because KU is going to be sickening deep, but 3/4's of the preseason predicts I've read have John freaking Wall annoited as POY already. He hasn't even played a second yet. I root for that sleazeball Calipari's failure w/ all my heart
__________________
Posts: 15,488
BWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:23 PM   #5
BWillie BWillie is offline
Future Royals HOF
 
BWillie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Harpooning Whales
Casino cash: $22205
LAWL - the great Kige Ramsey just commented on my facebook about John Wall. A perfect example of a stereotypical fan if I've ever seen one.
__________________
Posts: 15,488
BWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:26 PM   #6
Reaper16 Reaper16 is offline
Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat
 
Reaper16's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dystopia
Casino cash: $8159
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWillie007 View Post
Alot of publications and media outlets are predicting him to be, or at least candidate. Personally, I don't think Aldrich or Collins will be able to compile the stats to get POY because KU is going to be sickening deep, but 3/4's of the preseason predicts I've read have John freaking Wall annoited as POY already. He hasn't even played a second yet. I root for that sleazeball Calipari's failure w/ all my heart
I agree with all of this. Especially the last sentence.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delano View Post
Reaper16's taste in beer, music, and literature are unmatched on this message board.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 32,711
Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:27 PM   #7
Sure-Oz Sure-Oz is offline
Stay positive, don't give up
 
Sure-Oz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Casino cash: $7882
Maybe playa of the year
Posts: 40,338
Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:33 PM   #8
Silock Silock is offline
MVP
 
Silock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Overland Park
Casino cash: $9887
He'll play.
Posts: 17,563
Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.Silock threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2009, 11:35 PM   #9
BWillie BWillie is offline
Future Royals HOF
 
BWillie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Harpooning Whales
Casino cash: $22205
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silock View Post
He'll play.
I'm sure Cal has many off shore savings accounts just for uses in this instance so he can launder the money back to Wall so he can pay back his debts.
__________________
Posts: 15,488
BWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBWillie 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 12:59 AM   #10
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $14546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
I agree with all of this. Especially the last sentence.
Yessir. I have absolutely no vested interest in Kentucky, but Calipari's failure would make me inexplicably happy.
Posts: 22,473
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 01:34 AM   #11
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $145
Now you are all starting to sound like Louisville Cardinal or Memphis Tiger fans...

mmaddog
*******
Posts: 8,613
Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mosbonian Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 02:32 AM   #12
Saccopoo Saccopoo is offline
You know what to do...
 
Saccopoo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zion
Casino cash: $8838
Who gives a shit? Head to head, KU still kicks their ass, Wall or not. Suit him up. He will still get the beatdown, if they make it to the end.
Posts: 10,806
Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Saccopoo has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2009, 02:58 AM   #13
CoMoChief CoMoChief is online now
The Revolution Has Begun
 
CoMoChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: KCMO
Casino cash: $9725
Recruiting issues with players......Calipari?!?!?.................nah. Nothing bad has ever happened before. Move along people.
Posts: 31,128
CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.CoMoChief threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:44 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.