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Old 11-04-2009, 10:44 AM  
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Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Accidents Caused by Sudden acceleration.

Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration


Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night.


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479

Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars."


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Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick.

More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour.

CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY.

Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them.

Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'.

"I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal.

"I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down."

James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html

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Old 11-10-2009, 03:42 PM   #121
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so... take the floormats out? buy different floormats? manufacturer replacements?
Ask Ed. He's the one with the raging hardon over this popcorn fart.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:44 PM   #122
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You quoted and provided a link to the Chicago Tribune. That is meaningless. Are you really old or something?
I think it is common knowledge that you post links to your cut and pastes on here, are you new? No I guess not, you just refuse to reveal the fact that you were intentionally misleading.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:45 PM   #123
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Here you go, Dumbbell. This is what the NHTSA says about it, it's the latest news from them, verbatim. Just like what I posted earlier.


http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...earSelect=2009
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:46 PM   #124
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so... take the floormats out? buy different floormats? manufacturer replacements?
Read the thread, the owners are saying it is not the floor mats. I would suggest clicking on the youtube of the drivers ed instructor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWzroq-0h_c
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:47 PM   #125
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Yeah, click on the youtube links, you'll find Ed's video of himself screaming "LEAVE GM ALONE YOU BASTARDS!!"
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:57 PM   #126
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Read the thread, the owners are saying it is not the floor mats. I would suggest clicking on the youtube of the drivers ed instructor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWzroq-0h_c
The NTSB says it's the mats and they will be recalling them, and in the meantime one should remove them.

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Today’s advisory was precipitated by continued reports of vehicles accelerating rapidly after release of the accelerator pedal. The incidents appear to be related to factors including the use of a variety of unsecured mats, the particular configuration of the accelerator pedals in these vehicles, and the unique steps needed to shut off the engines in some of these vehicles with keyless ignition.
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:57 PM   #127
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Given that the number of cases is 2000 and the number of vehicles manufactured over the time frame is most likely in the 10's of millions, it's not a systemic problem. It's anecdotal at best. I'm pretty sure there are 2000 really stupid people out of 10 million plus.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:52 PM   #128
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Yeah, click on the youtube links, you'll find Ed's video of himself screaming "LEAVE GM ALONE YOU BASTARDS!!"
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:53 PM   #129
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Here you go, Dumbbell. This is what the NHTSA says about it, it's the latest news from them, verbatim. Just like what I posted earlier.


http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...earSelect=2009
As I suspected, old news, and you intentionally left the link out in an effort to hide this fact.

Tuesday, September 29, 2009! Enjoy your clown shoes.

Why are you so irrational about defending them? Why do you refuse to even consider the information that represents something you don't like?


I have posted articles, including statements from the nhtsa, saying the investigation is still ongoing.
It just might be that some of these people, that have actually experienced this, may have a valid point.
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Old 11-10-2009, 06:07 PM   #130
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As I suspected, old news, and you intentionally left the link out in an effort to hide this fact.

Tuesday, September 29, 2009! Enjoy your clown shoes.

Why are you so irrational about defending them? Why do you refuse to even consider the information that represents something you don't like?


I have posted articles, including statements from the nhtsa, saying the investigation is still ongoing.
It just might be that some of these people, that have actually experienced this, may have a valid point.
That is the latest NHTSA information. If you have a link to new NHTSA information, then post it. Not the Chicago Tribune's rehash of what I already posted. The actual new NHTSA news release that you say is out there. Otherwise, I'll consider the matter closed, and your argument null.
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Old 11-10-2009, 06:11 PM   #131
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Really, all of this is just simple-minded, irrational hatred for superior products, brought on by unjustified feelings of loyalty toward dying, deadhead companies. Dead from the neck up. All it really elicits from me at this point is a chuckle.
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Old 11-10-2009, 06:33 PM   #132
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You are just laughable, and so predictable.

You discredit the Chicago Tribune's quote of the NHTSA " last week, the NHTSA called the issue a "very dangerous problem" and said the remedy remains to be determined.

The agency declined a request for interviews, but issued a statement defending its past actions, saying its officials have continuously monitored Toyota vehicles for potential defects and that many of the reports of sudden acceleration involved only momentary surges of engine power that did not result in any loss of vehicle control.

"NHTSA takes every allegation of safety problems seriously and that is why we read every consumer complaint within one business day of its receipt," the agency said. "In the case of complaints about sudden acceleration in Toyota vehicles NHTSA moved very quickly to respond to them."

But you will only accept the information from a government organization, that was posted on their website a month a half ago? The very agency that has possibly been negligent, in their investigation of this issue to date?

The agency that stated, last week, that their investigation is not completed?

Did you have to take that position, to get your $4500 government hand out?

Feel free to withdraw, and stick your head in the sand, this is a long way from closed.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:14 PM   #133
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Toyota to Replace 4 Million Gas Pedals After Crashes

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Old 11-25-2009, 01:19 PM   #134
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8 pages on a Toyota recall? Didn't know that was such an exciting topic to discuss.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:32 PM   #135
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Interesting. I hate this new Windows7, it will not allow those links.


Edit: ." But in a rare rebuke, NHTSA accused Toyota of releasing misleading information about the recall, saying removing the mats did not "correct the underlying defect." Toyota said it was not the company's intention to mislead anyone.

If removing the floormats did not fix it, I am curious how shortening the gas pedal will?


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8 pages on a Toyota recall? Didn't know that was such an exciting topic to discuss.
If you set up your CP viewing experience properly, it would only be 2 pages.

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