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Old 12-08-2009, 05:10 PM  
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Senate rejects Nelson amendment on abortion

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The Senate narrowly rejected an amendment that would have restricted abortion coverage in the pending health-care bill, leaving in question whether Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) has the 60 votes needed to move the bill toward final passage.

The measure, which failed 54-45, addressed the scope of restrictions on coverage of abortion services for people who receive subsidies to buy insurance. The outcome was expected, but could cost the support of Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), who has threatened to filibuster the $848 billion bill unless abortion restrictions are tightened.

Reid told reporters earlier Tuesday afternoon he would consider other language to allay Nelson's concerns. "If in fact he doesn't succeed here, we'll try something else," Reid said.

The vote came amid intense final negotiations on the bill, as Reid aims to wrap up debate on amendments and begin a long procedural stand-off with Republicans -- possibly extending 10 days -- before the bill can come to a final vote before Christmas.

Nelson also is participating in talks to establish an alternative to the public insurance option, and said he would continue to negotiate with Reid and his colleagues on the overall bill. "People are talking," he said before the abortion vote. "And that's usually a good thing."
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:53 PM   #2
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Somebody needs to get the message to Harry. This turkey is stuck, this goose is cooked. The Eagle has landed, Sully sullenbergers plane is looking for a place to land. IT"S ovah dude.

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Old 12-08-2009, 05:55 PM   #3
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Somebody needs to get the message to Harry. This turkey is stuck, this goose is cooked. The Eagle has landed, Sully sullenbergers plane is looking for a place to land. IT"S ovah dude.

Keep fuggin doubting the American People.
It's ovah? Wanna bet some real money that a health care bill passes the senate?
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:00 PM   #4
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I think this is going to go very badly for Reid and any attempt to pass Obamacare.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:00 PM   #5
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It's ovah? Wanna bet some real money that a health care bill passes the senate?
The only way it becomes legislation is if a lot of Democrats, including Obama, go back on their word.

So, that said, I'm sure it will pass.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:27 PM   #6
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I am wondering how many "fiddles of gold" have been promised to the House and Senate by now? These egos are massive, they don't care about anything but saving face at this point.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:52 PM   #7
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It's ovah? Wanna bet some real money that a health care bill passes the senate?
exactly, a sheet of paper with 'Health Care' scribbled on it will pass and BO will claim it a success..
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:31 PM   #8
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It's ovah? Wanna bet some real money that a health care bill passes the senate?
I think "a" health care bill will pass. But no public option will pass. Democrats aren't going to be happy with it - and thus, nobody is going to be happy with it. It's going to be a piece of trash that only entrenches the insurance companies and does the opposite of what the Democrats set out to do.

So happy health care victory to Obama!
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Old 12-08-2009, 07:53 PM   #9
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Like I said a couple weeks ago, it's going to be a very empty victory. Just saving face, that's all.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:00 PM   #10
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Like I said a couple weeks ago, it's going to be a very empty victory. Just saving face, that's all.
Unfortunately it is looking that way.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:02 PM   #11
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I think "a" health care bill will pass. But no public option will pass. Democrats aren't going to be happy with it - and thus, nobody is going to be happy with it. It's going to be a piece of trash that only entrenches the insurance companies and does the opposite of what the Democrats set out to do.

So happy health care victory to Obama!
You're right about something. Golly-gee.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:14 PM   #12
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I fail to see why elective surgery, such as abortion, needs to come out of my pocket for someone else?
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:18 PM   #13
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I fail to see why elective surgery, such as abortion, needs to come out of my pocket for someone else?
It's obvious. The majority of abortions are needed by poor people (who are disproportionately minorities) and have been held down by evil businesses and rich people who continue to take advantage of them by making abortions and contraceptives beyond their price range. As such, they have a lot of children and can't afford child care which makes them stay home, quit school before getting a degree, and never get financially ahead. This is just evening the playing field a bit. Why are you so selfish?
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:49 PM   #14
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It's obvious. The majority of abortions are needed by poor people (who are disproportionately minorities) and have been held down by evil businesses and rich people who continue to take advantage of them by making abortions and contraceptives beyond their price range. As such, they have a lot of children and can't afford child care which makes them stay home, quit school before getting a degree, and never get financially ahead. This is just evening the playing field a bit. Why are you so selfish?
Also, skin bleaching should be covered so that black people can trick white people into giving them a chance to succeed.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:29 PM   #15
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I think "a" health care bill will pass. But no public option will pass. Democrats aren't going to be happy with it - and thus, nobody is going to be happy with it. It's going to be a piece of trash that only entrenches the insurance companies and does the opposite of what the Democrats set out to do.

So happy health care victory to Obama!
Getting those excuses ready early.....
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