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Old 01-11-2010, 12:24 PM  
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Star Trek 12 Gets Release Date

I'm not sure if its Star Trek 12 or Star Trek 2, but the release date is June 29, 2012.

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/01/11...-nothing-else/

UPDATE: Paramount has confirmed to MTV that the projected release date for the "Star Trek" sequel is indeed June 29, 2012.

This counts as news, but there's not much to it. We all know there's a "Star Trek" sequel coming. Hell, Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, writers/producers of the May reboot, were talking about sequel possibilities as far back as the week after the first movie came out. Now we have a date to pin our hopes to: June 29, 2012.

Nothing else is known or announced, so don't ask. Maybe director J.J. Abrams will return to helm the sequel, maybe he won't. Maybe Khan will be the villain, maybe not. For all we know, the plan is to give us an epic "Star Trek Meets Star Wars" crossover. Could happen, right?

The news comes from a variety of sources, including Ain't It Cool News and Box Office Mojo, but there's no Paramount-issued press release that I can find. The information ran through some trustworthy sources, but we've yet to receive comment from the studio directly.

Regardless, there really hasn't ever been any doubt that we'd be seeing more "Star Trek." Abrams' take on the series made it friendly to an entirely new, much wider audience than its ever known before.

Were you anything less than certain that a "Star Trek" sequel was coming eventually? Where would you like the story to go from where it is now? Any specific hopes for the sequel?
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:57 PM   #751
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Sherlock Holmes: Game of Shadows was not a good movie.

I still liked it.

In this case, the movie was an adaptation of a universe based on a set of stories, which had been re-imagined, remade, retold, and revamped dozens of times on film and television. There is no "hardcare" Sherlock Holmes fan (at least I have yet to meet one) that complained that those movies are hardly at all in the TRUE spirit of Sherlock Holmes, because the character and the setting has been done dozens of different ways.

Not so for Star Trek. Like it or not, there IS a standard that should at least be considered when doing these movies. You can recast it. Fine. You can change the course of events in the timeline. Uhh... okay, sure, why not? You can apply different roles and functions for each character and element. Excellent, that's exactly what you should be doing.

But you should NOT try to make a Frankenstein's monster of different lines and references all while uncreatively inversing the roles instead of changing them and creating something NEW.

That's the problem I have with it. That doesn't mean it wasn't fun and entertaining. But it doesn't mean it's a good movie.
This is something that seems to be lost here. Entertaining and good are mutually exclusive concepts. People are treating star trek like it's supposed to be high art or something. It's a summer popcorn movie. That's all. If it was high art, odds are not many of us would have seen it and this thread would be reaper talking to himself.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:03 PM   #752
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He'd better not be. Or rather, only if that sick girl from the opening scene is. But, yeah, the world is ostensibly without death, a fact that will be completely forgotten about in the next one.
The transporter should be able to create unlimited exact duplicates of anything or anybody it transports, right down to their brain waives. So just download yourself into the pattern buffer once a week, and if you die, just have somebody beam out a new you. Sent anywhere in the galaxy instantly, apparently, with transwarp beaming. Why do we need ships again?

Super space blood is mild compared to that.
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This is something that seems to be lost here. Entertaining and good are mutually exclusive concepts. People are treating star trek like it's supposed to be high art or something. It's a summer popcorn movie. That's all. If it was high art, odds are not many of us would have seen it and this thread would be reaper talking to himself.
I believe it was the great George Thorogood who once sang "You know when I watch art-house cinema, I prefer to be by myself."
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:29 PM   #754
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Smart Marketing 101: HBO (owned by Time-Warner, which owns Warner Brothers) is bombarding its channels with the 1978 this month and into next.

Paramount? Not so much.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:33 PM   #755
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Smart Marketing 101: HBO (owned by Time-Warner, which owns Warner Brothers) is bombarding its channels with the 1978 this month and into next.

Paramount? Not so much.
They've also saturated us with Trailers and TV ads. That movie's going to be huge I think.

(early word is that it's also very, very good)
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Old 05-25-2013, 11:57 AM   #756
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Par. is a marketing wasteland these days. They can't open a film domestically, meeting expectations, to save their lives. It is really strange.
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:02 PM   #757
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Smart Marketing 101: HBO (owned by Time-Warner, which owns Warner Brothers) is bombarding its channels with the 1978 this month and into next.

Paramount? Not so much.
TNT is showing The Watchmen right now. Getting as much Zach Snyder publicity out there as they can.

I know Watchmen has its critics, but I loved the movie. Even edited for mainstream cable, the movie is good, and the visuals are fantastic.

Very stoked to see what he can do with the Supes story...
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:04 PM   #758
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They've also saturated us with Trailers and TV ads. That movie's going to be huge I think.

(early word is that it's also very, very good)
My post was more to the point about Paramount's poor marketing (which I mentioned earlier in the thread). Paramount should have had the 2009 Star Trek movie on constantly airing on Showtime for 4-6 week prior to the release of Into Darkness in addition to channels like Spike TV, FX, etc.

Warner Brothers is doing it right: Paramount did not.

As to my box office receipt projections, Into Darkness was off by 56% from Friday to Friday, which is even more than my "optimistic" projection. It'll be interesting to see where they are on Monday night.
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TNT is showing The Watchmen right now. Getting as much Zach Snyder publicity out there as they can.

I know Watchmen has its critics, but I loved the movie. Even edited for mainstream cable, the movie is good, and the visuals are fantastic.

Very stoked to see what he can do with the Supes story...
Snyder is absolutely amazing with visuals, so Man of Steel should be a treat. And since he didn't write the script, I'd imagine it will be a very good film as well.

I've heard the movie is excellent but I've done my absolute best to make sure I'm not spoiled in any way.
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Old 05-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #760
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Snyder is absolutely amazing with visuals, so Man of Steel should be a treat. And since he didn't write the script, I'd imagine it will be a very good film as well.

I've heard the movie is excellent but I've done my absolute best to make sure I'm not spoiled in any way.
Yeah, me too. I've avoided spoiler talk and websites as much as I possibly can, and made a decision to not watch any more trailers after the last one that was posted. Move just looks fan-freaking-tastic. I really really hope it lives up to expectations.

And you're right about Snyder - his visuals work alone made Sucker Punch worth watching. Well, that and the bevvy of hotness of his actresses.....
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Yeah, me too. I've avoided spoiler talk and websites as much as I possibly can, and made a decision to not watch any more trailers after the last one that was posted. Move just looks fan-freaking-tastic. I really really hope it lives up to expectations.

And you're right about Snyder - his visuals work alone made Sucker Punch worth watching. Well, that and the bevvy of hotness of his actresses.....
Yeah, I'm excited about it, too! I mentioned in the official thread that it will likely be my first midnight showing in a decade. I probably won't be up for another until the new Star Wars movie is released.

Well, that is, if J.J. Abrams doesn't **** it up beforehand.
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Well, that is, if J.J. Abrams doesn't **** it up beforehand.
I don't see how Abrams can screw up Star Wars.

It's really well suited for his style, and the bar was set low with the prequels.
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My post was more to the point about Paramount's poor marketing (which I mentioned earlier in the thread). Paramount should have had the 2009 Star Trek movie on constantly airing on Showtime for 4-6 week prior to the release of Into Darkness in addition to channels like Spike TV, FX, etc.

Warner Brothers is doing it right: Paramount did not.

As to my box office receipt projections, Into Darkness was off by 56% from Friday to Friday, which is even more than my "optimistic" projection. It'll be interesting to see where they are on Monday night.
I know, I was agreeing with you.
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I don't see how Abrams can screw up Star Wars.

It's really well suited for his style, and the bar was set low with the prequels.
Well, hopefully, there will be enough people looking over his shoulder that he won't have an opportunity to screw it up. The good thing is that Orci, Kurtzman and the Assclown aren't involved in 7-9.

My fear is that they somehow weasel their way in to the stand alone's and trilogies that follow.
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