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Old 01-23-2010, 08:43 AM  
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Will we see a major Dem challenge Obama for the 2012 nomination?

Hillary has been suspiciously quiet for at least the past 6 months. I think she knows that she will be way too old in 2016. Then, you see some Dems like Harold Ford doing their own thing and going against the party establishment. I've never seen an incumbent get a serious challenge in the primary, but I could see it happening this time.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:32 AM   #31
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...If there is a "major Dem challenge" to Obama in 2012, I get control of your signature for the rest of the existence of ChiefsPlanet.

If there isn't such a thing, you get mine...
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:34 AM   #32
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Obama would have to be ready to resign for a Dem to make a major challenge. No party is going to seriously challenge their own incumbent.
Ted Kennedy challenged Jimmy Carter. Barack Obama is the closest thing we've had to Jimmy Carter since Carter himself. By the time it's all said and done, he may out-Carter Carter.

I don't expect it to happen, but with Hillary's ambition and Obama's pathetic first year, I won't dismiss the possibility either. I also won't dismiss the possibility that Obama could rebound and easily win a second term.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:35 AM   #33
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Ted Kennedy challenged Jimmy Carter. Barack Obama is the closest thing we've had to Jimmy Carter since Carter himself. By the time it's all said and done, he may out-Carter Carter.
Or B.O. can pull an LBJ and just quit.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:34 AM   #34
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You didn't recently say that you'd been posting less because of comments very much like the one you made yourself above?
And, dude, we've heard your swing and a miss line a few times now. Feel free to mix in some new material.
No, I did not say that.

I'd do my usual swing/miss motif but I'm going to give you a chance to correct yourself before I do.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:34 AM   #35
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Obama would have to be ready to resign for a Dem to make a major challenge. No party is going to seriously challenge their own incumbent.
There it is, Pete. You've answered your own question.

Thanks for the thread.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:35 AM   #36
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Getting a guy's sig is like him having to give you a ride to school every day.

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I don't know what that means.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:37 AM   #37
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Swing and a miss. I haven't stopped posting, and I have no trouble with snide comments.

Tell you what -- I'll make a bet once again to prove here that no conservatives actually believe this will happen, but are instead just saying this because it's some dumb fad you've embraced.

If there is a "major Dem challenge" to Obama in 2012, I get control of your signature for the rest of the existence of ChiefsPlanet.

If there isn't such a thing, you get mine.

Or, really, any other bet you want to come up with. That's how stupid this conjecture is.

If somebody's actually interested in putting their money where their baseless rumor mills are, let me know.

But we both know there won't be.
What money? Sigs? jeesh
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:37 AM   #38
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No, I did not say that.

I'd do my usual swing/miss motif but I'm going to give you a chance to correct yourself before I do.
I don't need to correct myself. You said words to the effect that the level of discourse here had sunk to such a level that you lost interest in posting. I don't see how your previous post did anything to promote any kind of intelligent discourse. You can excuse it however you want to.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:38 AM   #39
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Wouldn't a Democrat who challenged Obama in 2012 (if he chooses to run again) immediately be declared a racist?
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:40 AM   #40
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Obama would have to be ready to resign for a Dem to make a major challenge. No party is going to seriously challenge their own incumbent.
You are probably right, but if the economy keeps tanking and the dems want to retain the white house it might be necessary to flush.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:41 AM   #41
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Wouldn't a Democrat who challenged Obama in 2012 (if he chooses to run again) immediately be declared a racist?
You should direct that question to KCNative, he is the resident who most frequently calls someone out as being racist.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:10 PM   #42
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I don't need to correct myself.
Really? Because you've done it a few times already.

First it was:
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Then you felt the need to correct yourself by saying:

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You didn't recently say that you'd been posting less because of comments very much like the one you made yourself
Then you felt the need to correct yourself once more:

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You said words to the effect that the level of discourse here had sunk to such a level that you lost interest in posting. I don't see how your previous post did anything to promote any kind of intelligent discourse.
So let's call a spade a spade instead of trying to referee conversation.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:14 PM   #43
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By the way, I don't have, and have never felt I have, the responsibility to make people "talk smart" around here. Because I prefer a better atmosphere for discourse doesn't mean it's my responsibility to somehow turn chicken shit into chicken salad.

If you folks want to be idiots, be idiots. I have zero responsibilities to anybody, including myself, on ChiefsPlanet other than post whatever I like whenever I like.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:15 PM   #44
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Really? Because you've done it a few times already.

First it was:

Then you felt the need to correct yourself by saying:



Then you felt the need to correct yourself once more:



So let's call a spade a spade instead of trying to referee conversation.
Okay, call a spade a spade. I corrected my statement and you recently remarked that you had been posting less due to the less than desireable level of intellectual discourse. You then posted a comment in this thread that does nothing to add any level of intellectual discourse in any way shape or fashion.
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:17 PM   #45
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Okay, call a spade a spade. I corrected my statement and you recently remarked that you had been posting less due to the less than desireable level of intellectual discourse. You then posted a comment in this thread that does nothing to add any level of intellectual discourse in any way shape or fashion.
I don't have to add anything. It's not my responsibility to do any of that here.

I talk politics here, and I love to snark. Snarking ain't the problem I've had with DC recently.
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