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Old 01-25-2010, 11:07 AM  
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The Mad as Hell Party

I kind of liked this read, and it echoes some of my own thoughts on the current political climate:

http://salon.com/news/tea_parties/in..._hell_open2010
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MONDAY, JAN 25, 2010 09:26 EST
What the Mad-As-Hell folks could do
Republicans and Democrats are scrambling to embrace the new grassroots anger. But do they get it?
BY ROBERT REICH
A third political party is emerging in America. Call it the I’m-Mad-As-Hell party.

It’s a mistake to see the Mad-As-Hell party as just a right-wing phenomenon – the so-called Tea Partiers now storming the gates of the Republican Party. There are plenty of mad-as-hellers on the left as well -- furious at Wall Street, health insurers, pharmaceutical manufacturers, and establishment Democrats.

Mad-as-hellers don’t trust big government. But they don’t trust big business and Wall Street, either. They especially hate it when big government gets together with big business and Wall Street -- while at the same time Main Street is in shambles and millions of people are losing their jobs and homes.

First it was TARP, the giant bank bailout that seems to have made Wall Street flush again -- so flush the Street is now distributing giant bonuses as if the crash it brought on never happened.

Then came the stimulus package, replete with earmarked goodies for every corporation big enough to hire a team of Washington lobbyists.

And then it was healthcare, which to some people looked like a sweetheart deal between government and Big Pharma and big health insurers.

To the Mad-As-Hell party, the biggest event last week wasn’t Scott Brown’s upset victory in Massachusetts. It was the Supreme Court’s decision in Citizen’s United vs. the Federal Election Commission, allowing corporations to spend however much they want on political campaigns. True mad-as-hellers see this as inviting even more collusion between big business, Wall Street, and big government -- and against the rest of us.

With the mid-term elections months away, both Republicans and Democrats are scrambling to embrace the Mad-As-Hell Party as their own. Republicans are hoping the mad-as-hellers forget the gushing corporate welfare of the Bush administration and the last Republican congress. And Democrats have become born-again economic populists, blaming the nation’s problems on the same "fat cat" bankers and corporate lobbyists they’ve been cozying up to for years.

If the Mad-as-hell Party helps get money out of politics it will do a world of good. I might even join up. But if it just fulminates against the establishment, forget it. Wrecking balls are easy to wield. Rescuing our democracy is hard work.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:35 AM   #2
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Wait... are Dem's actually thinking that they can exploit this movement to their benefit?

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Old 01-25-2010, 11:38 AM   #3
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Wait... are Dem's actually thinking that they can exploit this movement to their benefit?

Actually yes and that is because there is alot of liberals\progressive that are mad at Obama because he isn't left enough
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:40 AM   #4
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Wait... are Dem's actually thinking that they can exploit this movement to their benefit?

I think his point was that there are similar sentiments (mad as hell) from the Left that aren't necessarily encapsulated by the Tea Baggers.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:42 AM   #5
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Actually yes and that is because there is alot of liberals\progressive that are mad at Obama because he isn't left enough
No, you don't spend a year calling people "teabaggers" and then one day say, "sorry, we'll call you the mad as hell party and you'll start voting for us".

This is just more propaganda that the left is trying to spin what B.O. said to Stephanopolous last week that "the same forces that put Scott Brown in office put me in office".

It's pathological self delusion.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:47 AM   #6
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No, you don't spend a year calling people "teabaggers" and then one day say, "sorry, we'll call you the mad as hell party and you'll start voting for us".

This is just more propaganda that the left is trying to spin what B.O. said to Stephanopolous last week that "the same forces that put Scott Brown in office put me in office".

It's pathological self delusion.
Once again, you're wrong as to his point. He never said that the Left wants to join the Tea Bag party or sway them to their side. He said there are people who are "mad as hell" on both sides of the aisle. One could argue that Obama got voted in by those people who (wrongly) thought he was bringing change to DC. The Right has the Tea Bag movement to represent them. Now both parties, recognizing that there is a mad as hell movement, are each trying to bring their "mad as hell" voters back into the fold by casting themselves as reformist. He's not trying to write propaganda. He's trying to point out that being pissed at the government isn't a partisan trait.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:49 AM   #7
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Once again, you're wrong as to his point. He never said that the Left wants to join the Tea Bag party or sway them to their side. He said there are people who are "mad as hell" on both sides of the aisle. One could argue that Obama got voted in by those people who (wrongly) thought he was bringing change to DC. The Right has the Tea Bag movement to represent them. Now both parties, recognizing that there is a mad as hell movement, are each trying to bring their "mad as hell" voters back into the fold by casting themselves as reformist. He's not trying to write propaganda. He's trying to point out that being pissed at the government isn't a partisan trait.
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I think his point was that there are similar sentiments (mad as hell) from the Left that aren't necessarily encapsulated by the Tea Baggers.
Oh, I know that's the spin he was aiming for, but it's translucent propaganda. The Left is in trouble and they are trying to make strange bedfollows. There is no "mad as hell party".
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No, you don't spend a year calling people "teabaggers" and then one day say, "sorry, we'll call you the mad as hell party and you'll start voting for us".

This is just more propaganda that the left is trying to spin what B.O. said to Stephanopolous last week that "the same forces that put Scott Brown in office put me in office".

It's pathological self delusion.
Look who wrote that. He was out of touch when he was the bearded midget in Clintos whitehouse.
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No, you don't spend a year calling people "teabaggers" and then one day say, "sorry, we'll call you the mad as hell party and you'll start voting for us".

This is just more propaganda that the left is trying to spin what B.O. said to Stephanopolous last week that "the same forces that put Scott Brown in office put me in office".

It's pathological self delusion.
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You all are delusional if you think there is no anti-DC, mad as hell, sick of all the bullshit force on the Left. Once again, those -are- the forces that put Obama into office. You can laugh at his comment all you want, but that is the force. Does that mean that they're the same people as the tea baggers or the same people who voted for Brown? No. Is there some of the same energy (mad as hell) in those people as in the people who originally voted for Obama? Yes.
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Actually yes and that is because there is alot of liberals\progressive that are mad at Obama because he isn't left enough
Yes but these folks have already proven irrelevant with the recent election. They didn't step up at the ballot box in Mass.
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Maybe they could be called the "Pussy teabaggers" instead of the Mad as Hell Party.
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Actually yes and that is because there is alot of liberals\progressive that are mad at Obama because he isn't left enough
I saw all the conservatives mad at Bush because he wasn't right enough. They were irrelevant.
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No, you don't spend a year calling people "teabaggers" and then one day say, "sorry, we'll call you the mad as hell party and you'll start voting for us".

This is just more propaganda that the left is trying to spin what B.O. said to Stephanopolous last week that "the same forces that put Scott Brown in office put me in office".

It's pathological self delusion.
So you are ok with Republicans exploiting and hijacking the tea party movement because unless you haven't been paying attention they have.
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