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Old 09-28-2011, 07:34 PM   #1801
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Under 17% tablet marketshare in a year?

Can we put some kind of money on this?
The bet I ALREADY made is for under 16% ( I think) as of Jan 1st 2013 (15 months from now).. what I am saying now is that I think I will end up being a full year off with that date.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:39 PM   #1802
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Fact is, I'll be right... I just may be wrong on my timing... eventually the iPad will be marginalized ... it is just taking far longer than I thought. As more and more sub $250 tablets come to market... sales will start to surge. Just look at what happened when the Touchpad was offered at $99 and $150. My guess NOW is that by the time the bet os over the iPad won't be as far down the ladder as I hoped but will be around 30-40%... I'm probably a full year off from them being sub 17%
Well no offense, but the timing was a big part of the bet. And you were alotted more time than was originally discussed anyway.. But I'm not complaining.

I think you might be right eventually. But still, so far the iPad has exceeded even my expectations.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:43 PM   #1803
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Well no offense, but the timing was a big part of the bet. And you were alotted more time than was originally discussed anyway.. But I'm not complaining.

I think you might be right eventually. But still, so far the iPad has exceeded even my expectations.
Oh no, I agree that the timing IS the bet.. I am just saying that right now it doesn't look like I will win unless the Fire and Nook2 go crazy and Windows8 tablets catch on as well. You never know, Windows 8 could change the entire landscape.
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Old 09-28-2011, 09:43 PM   #1804
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Oh no, I agree that the timing IS the bet.. I am just saying that right now it doesn't look like I will win unless the Fire and Nook2 go crazy and Windows8 tablets catch on as well. You never know, Windows 8 could change the entire landscape.
I seriously doubt windows 8 tablets will be priced very competitively.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:15 PM   #1805
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I seriously doubt windows 8 tablets will be priced very competitively.
I don't think it will matter if they can carve out a corporate productivity niche. Right now tablets are mostly for entertainment purposes.

Entertainment/consumer tablets need to be priced much much lower than something that has a viable business purpose.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:19 PM   #1806
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I don't think it will matter if they can carve out a corporate productivity niche. Right now tablets are mostly for entertainment purposes.

Entertainment/consumer tablets need to be priced much much lower than something that has a viable business purpose.
That brings up an interesting idea or point. If I was a tablet company I would really try to make an enterprise tablet.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:28 PM   #1807
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Under 17% tablet marketshare in a year?

Can we put some kind of money on this?
Too late dude... bets have been made..

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Old 09-28-2011, 10:44 PM   #1808
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I don't think it will matter if they can carve out a corporate productivity niche. Right now tablets are mostly for entertainment purposes.

Entertainment/consumer tablets need to be priced much much lower than something that has a viable business purpose.
You know... I've thought the same for quite some time. Work gave me an iPad so that I could support it for our users, and when my boss asked me what I use it most for, I straight up told him for entertainment. Cause that's true by a huge margin. But I'm still quite surprised by the number of tablets requested by our educational institution since the tablet craze started. I support a university, and we've had floods of requests for tablets by quite a few different departments. The nursing/pharma/dental schools have been just gobbling up tablets, both iPad and Android, like you wouldn't believe. We've been ordering them by quantities of 20-30 at a time. Other departments like Theater, music, com studies have bought quite a bit as well. I never thought I would see it used academically to the level it is.

And let me tell you, it's been very difficult to support. Mainly for the iPads and the way they're tied to a specific iTunes account for software. We have university owned iPads, in which the users want to load their own apps per personal iTunes accounts. Creates for a nightmare. Android tablets are infinitely easier to manage in an enterprise environment.

But we have users using tablets quite a bit for things I never expected. Some professors take iPads to class, and connect them to overhead projectors with the iPad HDMI connector, and give presentations and such that way. Users will VPN into the campus network from home, and RDP into their work computers, and edit Word documents from their tablets at home. Both iOS and Android. We have many virtual applications available for users, such as the M$ Office Suite, Adobe Creative Suite, statistics programs, etc. All available for users virtually. And they're available per tablet. Which is really cool.

Anyway, I'm rambling. But tablet use has really surprised me in that regard.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:58 PM   #1809
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Anyway, I'm rambling. But tablet use has really surprised me in that regard.
I know of quite a few people who have found ways to make their tablet a productivity tool as well... but as you pointed out... it is IN SPITE of the tablet's design not because of it.

If you look at tablet sales... we are talking less then what 60 million total sold worldwide over the last 2 years? That is peanuts compared to what business tablets could sell like initially. (of course, just like consumer tablets.. the demand will level off after the market gets enough saturation)
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I know of quite a few people who have found ways to make their tablet a productivity tool as well... but as you pointed out... it is IN SPITE of the tablet's design not because of it.

If you look at tablet sales... we are talking less then what 60 million total sold worldwide over the last 2 years? That is peanuts compared to what business tablets could sell like initially. (of course, just like consumer tablets.. the demand will level off after the market gets enough saturation)
Yeah. I think there is potential there for a next gen steroid tablet that could run a full featured OS and be very versatile for doing the same things a laptop currently does. Which would create another demand explosion.

Too many people expect their current tablet device to be a laptop replacement, and it still just isn't there yet.
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:00 AM   #1811
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Yeah. I think there is potential there for a next gen steroid tablet that could run a full featured OS and be very versatile for doing the same things a laptop currently does. Which would create another demand explosion.

Too many people expect their current tablet device to be a laptop replacement, and it still just isn't there yet.
Supposedly, Intel's next gen processors combined with Windows 8 will make that happen.. the question remains... when.

I fully expect them to be priced in the $1000+ range on the low end but if they are truly a laptop replacement they will sell.
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You know... I've thought the same for quite some time. Work gave me an iPad so that I could support it for our users, and when my boss asked me what I use it most for, I straight up told him for entertainment. Cause that's true by a huge margin. But I'm still quite surprised by the number of tablets requested by our educational institution since the tablet craze started. I support a university, and we've had floods of requests for tablets by quite a few different departments. The nursing/pharma/dental schools have been just gobbling up tablets, both iPad and Android, like you wouldn't believe. We've been ordering them by quantities of 20-30 at a time. Other departments like Theater, music, com studies have bought quite a bit as well. I never thought I would see it used academically to the level it is.

And let me tell you, it's been very difficult to support. Mainly for the iPads and the way they're tied to a specific iTunes account for software. We have university owned iPads, in which the users want to load their own apps per personal iTunes accounts. Creates for a nightmare. Android tablets are infinitely easier to manage in an enterprise environment.

But we have users using tablets quite a bit for things I never expected. Some professors take iPads to class, and connect them to overhead projectors with the iPad HDMI connector, and give presentations and such that way. Users will VPN into the campus network from home, and RDP into their work computers, and edit Word documents from their tablets at home. Both iOS and Android. We have many virtual applications available for users, such as the M$ Office Suite, Adobe Creative Suite, statistics programs, etc. All available for users virtually. And they're available per tablet. Which is really cool.

Anyway, I'm rambling. But tablet use has really surprised me in that regard.
They're the craze at our public schools as well... but for kids to use them. Every classroom wants an iPad or two for their kids to use. I'm on the technology committee that is putting together a tech request package for the coming years, and people are kicking around purchasing iPads/tablets/netbooks for every kid (with textbook funds and getting rid of textbooks, which most people don't actually use to any great extent). I'm not sure what direction to go with that. As you said, the iPad is a nightmare for management due to the one pad to iTunes account, so I don't think I'll be pushing to go in that direction unless there is a significant change in the way that all works. Maybe the Fire. Maybe some type of thin client laptop or netbook.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:25 AM   #1813
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They're the craze at our public schools as well... but for kids to use them. Every classroom wants an iPad or two for their kids to use. I'm on the technology committee that is putting together a tech request package for the coming years, and people are kicking around purchasing iPads/tablets/netbooks for every kid (with textbook funds and getting rid of textbooks, which most people don't actually use to any great extent). I'm not sure what direction to go with that. As you said, the iPad is a nightmare for management due to the one pad to iTunes account, so I don't think I'll be pushing to go in that direction unless there is a significant change in the way that all works. Maybe the Fire. Maybe some type of thin client laptop or netbook.
Well, you might take a look at this: http://www.apple.com/support/ipad/enterprise/

In particular the iPhone/iPad Configuration Utility. It allows you to create a custom configuration for iPad, and save that configuration, and then load it on new iPads, so that they're all standardized. And you can control access to nearly everything through the Config Utility. Like if you didn't want the students to use the internet, you could remove the icon for Safari. Or you could take it a step further and limit Safari so that it will only open specific websites. It's not perfect by any means. But it does help considerably in environments like that.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:39 AM   #1814
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this seems like an all purpose tablet thread, so...

I've really come around on the idea of a tablet after thinking about how I actually use my laptop (skype, web browsing basically)...

I want the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7....

http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/01/s...s-on-ifa-2011/

Due to legal wrangling with Apple, it isn't going to be released in the US supposedly. Is this situation that unusual, and will it end up here eventually or should I not hold my breath?

...if anyone has any guesses
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