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Old 02-10-2010, 04:51 PM   #316
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Also, forgot to mention, the iPad DOES have a USB port. Via attachment. Which, as I argue, it should be. What shouldn't be is any removable memory port (SD card, specifically)
And there are rumors that the usb attachment will be limited. I'm surprised nobody every had anything you wanted to copy off of a flash drive.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:52 PM   #317
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That's why I have Perian....

Whoops, there goes your argument.
who's trying to argue beside you

you want to know why some people would want a USB port ... i gave you a reason. Just because it's not enough information to meet your debate argument standard is irrelevant.

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customer wants a USB port because it makes them feel good about themselves
so give them a fracking USB port
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:52 PM   #318
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That's why I have Perian....

Whoops, there goes your argument.
except for what I quoted and commented on was about USB ports, and the lack there of on the iPad.

I'm sorry IJH, this thing is a PoS. I said it before and will say it again, Apple could have knocked it out of the park with this device, instead they half-assed a shitty open faced netbook.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:56 PM   #319
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you are basically saying YOU wouldn't use the USB, but everyone is not you.

example ...

you are going on a vacation to see grandma petunia with the kids. You want to read some on the trip but don't want to carry a bunch of books with you so you just take the digital version on the apple tablet. You are packing and at the last minute you forgot about all those pictures you took of the kids at Disneyland you wanted to show grandma. Dam ... Grandma Petunia is 105 years old and won't be able to see that small little screen on a phone or camera and you don't have time to print them out. So you'll just grab a USB thumbnail drive and stick in into the USB port on the Apple tablet and use the tablet to show grandma the pictures. The Apple tablet with serve 2 purposes on the trip!!!

oh wait ...... the asshats at apple didn't put a simple USB port on the tablet.

Sorry grandma, you'll be dead before we get a chance to come up to see you again ... you can't see the Disneyland pictures.

Thanks Apple for letting my grandma die weeping because she didn't get to see her grand kids at disneyland.



so Mr. Irish hawk ... is this enough specific information for you to understand how somebody else would want usb drive on the apple tablet?
Great, now I feel bad for laughing at your Grandmothers pain.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:56 PM   #320
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I'd agree with you if we were talking about plugging the device into the computer. In that case, it effectively has a USB port since it connects via USB.

I just can't see anyone uploading or downloading something on the go from a flash drive. A) when do you think you'd do it B) what would you do it with (I conceded with media, but I don't think they'll allow a VLC player app) and C) why couldn't you just email it or transfer it wirelessly.

A more interesting prospect than USB is whether Apple will employ the technology they have in the Air that allows taking over of a computer's disc drive. That would allow someone to watch movies over it, transfer files, or potentially, install things.
Honestly man, this is the most retarded argument i have ever heard.

Example:

I have 3.5 GB's of photo's on my PC that I would like to show on my new $400 Picture Viewer (iPad). I know, I will just throw them on a USB Jump Drive and trans.....ohhhh....wait.

****ing LAME.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:01 PM   #321
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you are basically saying YOU wouldn't use the USB, but everyone is not you.

example ...

you are going on a vacation to see grandma petunia with the kids. You want to read some on the trip but don't want to carry a bunch of books with you so you just take the digital version on the apple tablet. You are packing and at the last minute you forgot about all those pictures you took of the kids at Disneyland you wanted to show grandma. Dam ... Grandma Petunia is 105 years old and won't be able to see that small little screen on a phone or camera and you don't have time to print them out. So you'll just grab a USB thumbnail drive and stick in into the USB port on the Apple tablet and use the tablet to show grandma the pictures. The Apple tablet with serve 2 purposes on the trip!!!

oh wait ...... the asshats at apple didn't put a simple USB port on the tablet.

Sorry grandma, you'll be dead before we get a chance to come up to see you again ... you can't see the Disneyland pictures.

Thanks Apple for letting my grandma die weeping because she didn't get to see her grand kids at disneyland.



so Mr. Irish hawk ... is this enough specific information for you to understand how somebody else would want usb drive on the apple tablet?
Awesome.

And don't forget that Granny lives out in the sticks, outside of 3G coverage, and she doesn't have internet.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:02 PM   #322
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And there are rumors that the usb attachment will be limited. I'm surprised nobody every had anything you wanted to copy off of a flash drive.
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who's trying to argue beside you
I'm just shooting down his grossly inaccurate statement, which I did.

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you want to know why some people would want a USB port ... i gave you a reason. Just because it's not enough information to meet your debate argument standard is irrelevant.

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Yes, except then one has to build a file system. Or an app for a file system. (I'm betting they do, if for nothing else but to sell the adapters).

That's a great example, except that 99% of cameras use SD cards and I've actively advocated that addition.

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except for what I quoted and commented on was about USB ports, and the lack there of on the iPad.
And then promptly said Apple's Macs operate in the same way: only being used how Apple wants them used. Another way to shoot down that quote is to use jailbroken ipods/iPhones.

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I'm sorry IJH, this thing is a PoS. I said it before and will say it again, Apple could have knocked it out of the park with this device, instead they half-assed a shitty open faced netbook.
You'll see me in this very thread saying it's a) not living up to the hype and b) isn't where it needs to be.

However, once again, you immediately say it's a PoS. It is most certainly not a PoS. Is it where it needs to be? Absolutely not.

Apple could never have knocked it out of the park. If they put 1 USB port, people complain there isn't more (See Macbook Air). People would have complained about the lack of a physical keyboard (and still do). As for how it stacks up against netbooks, well, that's pretty subjective. I view the whole category of traditional netbooks as worthless. The iPad at least crosses into a better category.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:03 PM   #323
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Honestly man, this is the most retarded argument i have ever heard.

Example:

I have 3.5 GB's of photo's on my PC that I would like to show on my new $400 Picture Viewer (iPad). I know, I will just throw them on a USB Jump Drive and trans.....ohhhh....wait.

****ing LAME.
Oh, wait, you can automatically transfer them when it's ****ing docked.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:13 PM   #324
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I'm just shooting down his grossly inaccurate statement, which I did.



Yes, except then one has to build a file system. Or an app for a file system. (I'm betting they do, if for nothing else but to sell the adapters).

That's a great example, except that 99% of cameras use SD cards and I've actively advocated that addition.



And then promptly said Apple's Macs operate in the same way: only being used how Apple wants them used. Another way to shoot down that quote is to use jailbroken ipods/iPhones.



You'll see me in this very thread saying it's a) not living up to the hype and b) isn't where it needs to be.

However, once again, you immediately say it's a PoS. It is most certainly not a PoS. Is it where it needs to be? Absolutely not.

Apple could never have knocked it out of the park. If they put 1 USB port, people complain there isn't more (See Macbook Air). People would have complained about the lack of a physical keyboard (and still do). As for how it stacks up against netbooks, well, that's pretty subjective. I view the whole category of traditional netbooks as worthless. The iPad at least crosses into a better category.
And yet we have 1 vote for no USB and all the rest for it, hmmm.

Though I guess we should wait for Apples replacement for USB, even though super fast USB 3.0 is now coming up...
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:14 PM   #325
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And yet we have 1 vote for no USB and all the rest for it, hmmm.
Of course, let's put anything a majority of people want. If you want to see failures of that idea, see MySpace for the biggest one.

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Though I guess we should wait for Apples replacement for USB, even though super fast USB 3.0 is now coming up...
Superfast still doesn't beat wireless.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:22 PM   #326
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I use USB constantly. Let's not pretend its an outdated technology. Sitting in front of me right now, I have my iPod, camera, and phone all with USB cables attached to them, plus a USB drive plugged in.

Of course, the functioning of the iPad (and I still do giggle every time I say that name) lends itself to life without USB. If we had an OS X tablet, it would be essential. The iPad, just nice.
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Of course, let's put anything a majority of people want. If you want to see failures of that idea, see MySpace for the biggest one.



Superfast still doesn't beat wireless.
Actually it does, because it doesn't require recharging or batteries...
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I use USB constantly. Let's not pretend its an outdated technology. Sitting in front of me right now, I have my iPod, camera, and phone all with USB cables attached to them, plus a USB drive plugged in.
No doubt. And it's not outdated at all. I'm just saying that Apple's working on a replacement with Intel and essentially what you say below.

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Of course, the functioning of the iPad (and I still do giggle every time I say that name) lends itself to life without USB. If we had an OS X tablet, it would be essential. The iPad, just nice.
Exactly. I don't see how the iPad needs USB. If it was a fully fledged computer, sure. But it's not.
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Actually it does, because it doesn't require recharging or batteries...
Except that it's then draining the battery of the iPad, which, in turn, would make people cry about battery life.
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Of course, let's put anything a majority of people want. If you want to see failures of that idea, see MySpace for the biggest one.



Superfast still doesn't beat wireless.
Yeah, lets compare a crappy site to something every other computer and tablet computer has...
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