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Old 01-27-2010, 11:12 AM  
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:55 PM   #331
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Oh, wait, you can automatically transfer them when it's ****ing docked.
and you always have your dock with you? This is an insane argument man. The point is, apple didnt even think it worth to put a USB ports on the damn thing.

Nothing you can say will justify that.

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And then promptly said Apple's Macs operate in the same way: only being used how Apple wants them used. Another way to shoot down that quote is to use jailbroken ipods/iPhones.
Are you saying that in order to use an apple product the way that one might want to, if it doesn't agree with how Apple wants you to, then one should Jailbreak it. I fail to see how that is a good thing. And for the record, you agree and confirmed that apple has always been like that. Limited choice, use it the way they want you to.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:58 PM   #332
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Of course, let's put anything a majority of people want. If you want to see failures of that idea, see MySpace for the biggest one.



Superfast still doesn't beat wireless.
Dude, no USB is a tard move. has nothing to do with what the masses want, it has more to do with the fact that the majority of accessories out there are USB.

I get that you want to defend the product and Apple, but this, you have to admit is stupid.
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:38 PM   #333
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I think what irishjayhawk is trying to get at is that the OS that they put on the iPad essentially negates the ability to use any USB or SD input. Since it's running the iPhone OS instead of OS X. Nothing in the iPhone OS or any of it's current apps supports USB or SD input. If it's not part of the OS, that means no api controls for app developers to use to take advantage of it with 3rd party apps. So crippling it with the iPhone OS had the added benefit of making USB impossible to use with anything.

Which comes back to the bigger mistake of not putting OS X on the damn thing.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:39 PM   #334
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Yeah, lets compare a crappy site to something every other computer and tablet computer has...


You missed the point.


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and you always have your dock with you? This is an insane argument man. The point is, apple didnt even think it worth to put a USB ports on the damn thing.

Nothing you can say will justify that.
Yeah, I can't do anything about them not including it. But I can justify it.

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Are you saying that in order to use an apple product the way that one might want to, if it doesn't agree with how Apple wants you to, then one should Jailbreak it. I fail to see how that is a good thing. And for the record, you agree and confirmed that apple has always been like that. Limited choice, use it the way they want you to.
Jailbreaking is an indication that runs counter to your original claim and the one you make here. That is, use it the way they want you to use it. That's simply not true. On my Mac, I have plenty of software they probably don't approve of. I also can run anything I want and plug in anything I want to the computer. I am not limited by what they want me to use it for.

As for limited choice, it's really only limited by their App store approval or in the case of desktops and laptops, hardware upgrades. Of course, it's a trade off: better OS with tightly integrated hardware that lasts a long time versus lesser OS with loosely integrated hardware that can be upgraded and therefore last a long time.

Less choice isn't always bad.

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Dude, no USB is a tard move. has nothing to do with what the masses want, it has more to do with the fact that the majority of accessories out there are USB.
Like what? Keyboards? It has bluetooth. That hasn't inhibited you from using keyboards. So you don't wanna do bluetooth, fine, they included an onscreen keyboard OR an accessory they've provided and other companies will too.

Transfer 3.6 gigs of photos from a flash drive? That's an unnecessary middle step.

Forget to transfer pics to your device? A) that's your fault B) if it had an SD card which I've said all along it would do well to have, you'd be fine and C) you have a myrid of options other than a flash drive to get your pictures there. Not to mention the possibility of VNC over 3g (if possible) or Wifi, where you could access your home computer.

I just don't see many instances where having a USB port built in would justify it. Not to mention the thickness skyrockets and the aesthetics would be shit. (Not that how it looks is the end all be all.)


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I get that you want to defend the product and Apple, but this, you have to admit is stupid.
No, I'm far from defending this product as evidenced by my pre-USB posts. What I don't have to do is admit that the lack of USB means that the product is a PoS. That, right there, would be the mark of a fanboism. For all its faults, it is not a PoS.


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I think what irishjayhawk is trying to get at is that the OS that they put on the iPad essentially negates the ability to use any USB or SD input. Since it's running the iPhone OS instead of OS X. Nothing in the iPhone OS or any of it's current apps supports USB or SD input. If it's not part of the OS, that means no api controls for app developers to use to take advantage of it with 3rd party apps. So crippling it with the iPhone OS had the added benefit of making USB impossible to use with anything.

Which comes back to the bigger mistake of not putting OS X on the damn thing.
Well, I don't think it's a mistake. Reason being: it's obvious to anyone paying attention that they're slowly merging the two into one. Simply putting OSX on a tablet opens up pandora's box for shit that can go wrong. If they take their time and merge them together like they're doing now, I think people will understand why this transition product was important.

Think about it this way. Cut and Paste was absent from iPhone 1.0-2.9. They waited for a long, long time before adding it. Guess what? It beats any copy and paste experience on any phone. It just works. Making things just work takes more than just throwing every feature into something and shipping it.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:43 PM   #335
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:49 PM   #336
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I think what irishjayhawk is trying to get at is that the OS that they put on the iPad essentially negates the ability to use any USB or SD input. Since it's running the iPhone OS instead of OS X. Nothing in the iPhone OS or any of it's current apps supports USB or SD input. If it's not part of the OS, that means no api controls for app developers to use to take advantage of it with 3rd party apps. So crippling it with the iPhone OS had the added benefit of making USB impossible to use with anything.

Which comes back to the bigger mistake of not putting OS X on the damn thing.
I kind of don't buy that argument considering they are selling USB adapters (the iPad Camera Connection Kit) which can transfer photos\videos via USB\SD.

It seems to me they want you to buy extra accessories to make more money.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:49 AM   #337
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That's just too low a blow.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:20 AM   #338
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And there are rumors that the usb attachment will be limited. I'm surprised nobody every had anything you wanted to copy off of a flash drive.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:27 AM   #339
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It seems to me they want you to buy extra accessories to make more money.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:31 AM   #340
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Or maybe they didn't include it because not everyone wants that feature and it would have made the iPad more expensive to get into.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:33 PM   #341
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It seems to me they want you to buy extra accessories to make more money.
I would normally agree. However, this is not like Nintendo where they sell two parts to a controller or the PS2's multitap instead of just building in 4 ports.

The device is super thin. USB is, by default, not as thin. So, one has to redesign the whole thing. I really don't think it's an accessory thing. I also think you'll see other manufacturers building such accessories.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:47 PM   #342
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I would normally agree. However, this is not like Nintendo where they sell two parts to a controller or the PS2's multitap instead of just building in 4 ports.

The device is super thin. USB is, by default, not as thin. So, one has to redesign the whole thing. I really don't think it's an accessory thing. I also think you'll see other manufacturers building such accessories.
The iPhone isn't thinner than a USB, no way this thing is going to be.

You and Silock are so far out there on this its not even funny.
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:09 AM   #343
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The iPhone isn't thinner than a USB, no way this thing is going to be.

You and Silock are so far out there on this its not even funny.
It's very, very close. I can't find any measurements on a USB port so I can't say for sure. Just like the iPhone and iPod touch, the thickest parts will be in the center of the device for a slightly curved shape. Figuring that they'd also need to surround the port with the aluminum, it'll need to be slightly thicker than the USB port's actual thickness. So, it's very close.

The iPad is .5 inches thick.
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On sale now. Available April 3rd. You can order it online and have it shipped to your house on the 3rd, or you can reserve a copy and pick it up in a nearby Apple store between 9am and 3pm on that day.

I went ahead and reserved one. No obligation, don't even have to provide any form of payment. If you aren't there by 3pm to pick it up, they just give it to someone else instead. Now, I have 3 weeks to decide if I want to go ahead and buy it or not...
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On sale now. Available April 3rd. You can order it online and have it shipped to your house on the 3rd, or you can reserve a copy and pick it up in a nearby Apple store between 9am and 3pm on that day.

I went ahead and reserved one. No obligation, don't even have to provide any form of payment. If you aren't there by 3pm to pick it up, they just give it to someone else instead. Now, I have 3 weeks to decide if I want to go ahead and buy it or not...
Which did you reserve? 16,32,or 64?
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